Hypergamy is real. Most won’t drop a man they’ve decided they don’t like until another option comes along. Many will drop a perfectly good guy because they perceive another guy as a better option. Then they’ll swing right back when it doesn’t work out with the new guy.
We are wealthier now and have better healthcare than at any point in history, so that’s not it. Women literally have more life options than at any point in history. It’s behavior. The decline in happiness / increase in depression has impacted women significantly more than men. Most women simply develop long term bad feelings/negativity when they act promiscuous.
I never said anything about controlling women. What I’m saying is that they need willfully on their own change their behaviors to improve their mental wellbeing. Men need to as well. As for shaming, we need more of it in our society, not less. More shaming would go a long way towards improving many antisocial behaviors.
They call that “Monkey Branching” because a Monkey wont let go of a branch until it has a firm grasp on another.
If you encourage her or want her to come back, you are Screwed.
I have to admit that I have found that the more promiscuous a Woman was the crazier She tended to be in the Long Run. It was very similar to the Hot to Crazy Matrix.
Also; the likelyhood that Hot and Crazy might also be on Meds is pretty High too.
The funny thing about the whole virgin issue is that it’s entirely one-sided. I’ve not once ever met an adult woman who considered virginity a desirable trait in a man.
Well you do know before Penicillin it might have been a bit more important to People.
When the other treatments were Mecury Injections into the Penis it might behoove you to avoid those who were more promiscuous or in the profession.either Buying or Selling.
Men and women are physically and emotionally different, so don’t fall into the feminist mindset that everything has to be the same. The evolutionary reason that men want virgins or less promiscuous women is because men couldn’t be 100% sure of paternity unless they knew that another man hadn’t been with her before. Men who unknowingly raised the children of other men thinking that the children were theirs did not pass along their genes. Men who were cautious and only raised the children from virgins and less traveled women were more sure of paternity. As a result, they were more successful at passing along their genes. Therefore, it’s in our genes to desire less traveled women. At the same time, women don’t have this genetic programming to their emotions because they are always 100% sure of maternity. In fact, their emotions are genetically programmed to seek out high status men because they had more access to the resources that allow for survival. Resources meant that their children could survive and they could survive to reproduce in the future. Therefore, women have historically competed for high status men. All else being equal, if a man had other women available to him, women viewed him as more desirable. So for women, a man who has sexual access to other women isn’t emotionally revolting. More often, he’s more attractive than a man who doesn’t, all else being equal. The bottom line is that men and women have different characteristics that they’re attracted to based on evolutionary biology. There’s nothing wrong with that. These emotions are still validated in modern times because more traveled women tend to be more likely to lie about paternity, more likely to cheat, more likely to seek another man, less happy, more likely to have depression, etc. These are the sort of things that the OP needs to explain to his sons.
One more thing that I’d suggest that the OP explain to his sons is that they should avoid being white knights. White knights are the guys who try to save women from the consequences of their bad decisions. They most often get used for their resources and dumped when a perceived better option comes along.
Dude, there are many studies that prove what Bret is claiming. Just saying “no it isn’t it’s this”, is laughable. Just use logic, women are very emotional creatures, relationships are emotional rollercoasters. There are ups and downs. The more of them there are the more discombobulated they become because emotions shape their narrative for the most part. Where do you think the term emotional baggage comes from?
If your preference is “slutty”, great. Everybody has got their own thing going on, but you can’t ignore the logical fact that you are being compared to everyone else she has been with in every category. The chance of you winning all of them goes down significantly as more contestants enter the competition. You might even win in a few, but you will most definitely lose in others and that can and will be used against you at some point in time, in the open or just in her head.
No. The studies aren’t funded mostly by religious groups. Did you even try a search yourself? I would guess, no, you didn’t. Again, you can’t just make assumptions to forward your argument and hope people go along with it. Most are psychology based articles.
Men are no where near the emotional creatures women are. This has been a well known fact forever. Sure, men suppress their emotions. We are better at it for the very fact that it doesn’t control us as much as it does women.
What does men having to compare past women have to do with women comparing past men? It doesn’t. Both are separate entities and both can be true. The fact still exists that it does. Thanks for confirming that point of contention.
Again, because women tend to be the ones who end marriage, this has zero bearing on the fact that men are the ones who decide if it would even exist to begin with. The fact that more and more men these days are coming to the conclusion that marriage in todays world is not “worth the risk” is telling. Ironically, men still have a high value on the concept of marriage, but many don’t see the risk worth taking in todays women in the US. Why do you think the whole popularity of passport bros has hit an all time high. Men still want an ideal wife, they just have decided that most women in the US are not that and are looking elsewhere and many US women are pissed about it. Feminism lied to them and they are paying the price for it.
Women have historically wanted marriage more than men because it represents security for them. Men don’t need marriage for this reason. There are a couple of primary reasons that women file for 70-80% of divorces. The first is that the majority of time, women don’t marry their first choice. Women are hypergamist by nature. In other words, they seek relationships with men who are of higher social status, class, income, educational level, etc. than them and are less loyal on average than men. The women who are promiscuous mistakenly believe that if they can have sex with a man, they can have a committed relationship with him. When these committed relationships don’t materialize, it damages them psychology. The more these failed relationships happen, the more damage is done. They then most often settle for another man who will offer them a committed relationship. As time goes on, they are unhappy and resent this man for failing to be the man they really wanted. More often than not, these men have been good husbands and fathers, but it doesn’t matter. This is one reason why it’s critical to know the sexual past of a woman that you’re thinking about getting into a relationship with. If she has had a sexual relationship with a man that she views as more desirable than you, you are highly unlikely to get the loyalty bond from her that you want. The second reason that women initiate most of divorces is their friends. As they say, women keep other women single. Pay attention to who their friends are and what they do. If their friends are divorced or going through divorces, then they will very often encourage your wife to do the same. Instead of taking accountability for their actions, these women like to encourage their friends to do the same as them because it validates their behaviors. Along the same lines, if your wife/girlfriend’s friends cheat, then your wife/girlfriend will likely do the same to you. Don’t think that you’re special. Her friends reflect her values.
Another thing that I’d encourage the OP to do is to explain to his son that for the most part, you can’t make women happy. They either are happy or they’re not. Yes, you can do things that will make them happy in the moment, but overall, they just are happy or they’re not. If a woman isn’t generally happy, no amount of providing will make her happy. Avoid the ones that like to spend their time figuring out how they are victims. Seek the ones who take accountability.
Most women are NOT pissed about it. They’ve been recognizing they don’t need men / marriage either. Women have been GTOW before men caught on to the idea. That’s partly what those divorces are.
Fewer LTR’s, fewer people. Women decide how many pregnancies & births there are.
Bret; this wasn’t so much for me as for the Guys who still have Kids at Home.
My Son’s 31, Happily Married and working on Grandkids right now so, I’m pretty Good.
I was curious how the Guy’s here raising Young Son’s were dealing with it, “How do you warn your Son about the Cornell Seven?”
While women no longer have to marry, the vast vast vast majority of them absolutely do need men to survive. Men generally don’t need women to survive. Historically, women needed men to provide for them directly in order for them to survive. This was generally a father, brother, husband or son. Due to modern civilization that includes extremely efficient food production techniques, protection from predators (provided by men), specialization of labor, daycare for children, increased value for the labor that women can provide, etc., women can choose to pay men to do the tasks that men would have performed for them in the past. The difference here is that they’re paying money for men to perform these services instead of the men providing them out of a relationship obligation. If you actually believe that women can survive without men, run a couple of scenarios. What would happen if all women literally disappeared leaving only men in the world? Yes, it would suck due to losing the companionship of women, but modern civilization would continue until we died out due to lack of reproduction. What would happen if all men literally disappeared? In short order, energy production would dwindle to nothing, supply lines would slow to a halt, the infrastructure would crumble, utilities would fail, food production would crash and the production of goods would slow to a halt. This is because men perform the vast majority of manual labor jobs related to the goods and services that are needed to keep civilization running. Men can and do perform the vast majority of jobs that women do, but woman simply can’t do or want to avoid the tough jobs that men do. So, modern women don’t need to have direct relationships with men, but they absolutely do need men. It’s not a coincidence that women in poorer societies who are more directly dependent on men are happier than women in more affluent societies who don’t choose these direct relationships.
I’m talking about needing men for relationships.
Women don’t need men for that. Sure, a partner is great. Doesn’t have to be a man. Can be a family member or other woman.
Men are optional.
You speak about “historically” a bit. That’s the past.
About labor, men are free to work all they want. But even in regards to that, when fewer men were available in WW1 & 2, women filled those roles. Even if there were fewer men, that’s fewer people who need services, infrastructure, food, healthcare, etc.
Why are you trying to force being “the provider” role on yourself and other men? Having a woman actually like you as a life-partner / friend / housemate is the path to a happy LTR.
Let me see this study that poorer women financially dependent on men are happier.
Any way you slice it, women do need men. Due to the conveniences of modern civilization, some have simply chosen to replace intimate relationships with financial relationships. Intimate relationships make people happier than financial relationships because of the underlying bonds involved.
The feminists love when men use the term “partner” because it suggests sameness of wants, needs and responsibilities. The fact is that men and women are different, provide differently for each other and desire different things from each other. The words wife and husband exist for this reason.
History is important because evolutionary biology has programmed in us most of what men and women feel they want in their relationships. History explains why we are where we are today. Ignoring it allows feminist women to have the delusion that they can live in the world without men.
Women did certain jobs that they could, but they hardly performed any of the risky jobs such as military combat roles, merchant marines and primary infrastructure jobs.
I’m not trying to force anyone to do anything. Men are genetically programmed to provide in exchange for reproductive access, and women are genetically programmed to be attracted to men who provide protection, resources and higher social status. This is why college educated women generally do not want to date men who are not college educated and/or make less than them. These men simply are not near as attractive to them as men with college degrees who make more money than them. On the other hand, men do not generally care too much about how much money women bring to the table or the degrees that have. Instead, other primary factors such as physical attractiveness, loyalty, honesty, submissiveness and friendliness are more important. Committing to provide these wants, needs and desires for each other takes the relationship to a level beyond simply being roommates who get along and have sex.
It’s more dimensional than that. Women in committed relationships are happier than single women across all economic levels and regions. Women in poorer countries tend to be in committed relationships more. Therefore, in total on average they are happier than those in the wealthier countries. Women in wealthier countries who are in committed relationships generally self-report being happier as well.
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