lol. Yep, sounds about right, A friend of mine for the last 30 years carries a hi power. And when he shoots, he gets the cheapest aluminum cased ammo he can. I run that cheap shit for normal range session in my beater guns, But no in a hi power.
So I just looked 77grain 5.56 is about $1.25 a round.
Underwood 357sig 65 grain Leighi Defense is$ 2.25 a round
Underwood 10mm Leight Defense is $1.80 a round.
So it is a buck a round more than the rifle ammo, but it gives me rifle like performance in a weapon that I can either conceal carry or carry it in a small back pack.
The real question is the 9mm Leighi Defense it comes in at $1.42 a round , in a Glock 34 it goes over 1900fps, I would like to see what it can do out of a 6 to 7 inch barrel .
When we shot the hogs the wounds from the 357sig were like 20% I am guessing more damage. The question is would that matter in a person and I am thinking not so much.
So maybe I will go back to 9mm and just forget about my mental gymnastics , that I do when the mental gymnastics fro, business make me crazy
I don’t like short rifle barrels.
IMHO the max size / weight limit on a PDW is the MP5K form.
Otherwise a 16 in barrel rifle either bullpup or folding stock is what i want.
I think many people misunderstand the role of a PDW, it is something small, light and shoots easier than a handgun. A rifle caliber weapon no matter how short you cut down the barrel a PDW it does not make.
In this day and age a PDW is something you can carry into your house of worship, that you can carry in a small enough bag not to have people question what’s in the bag. Something that you can access easily and get it up and deployed. I would argue also the blast difference between a pistol caliber and a 7 inch AR in 5.56 is huge and it will have a negative effect on you and others around you.
My first for real rifle was either an AK47 or the old CAR15 with a pencil thin 16 inch barrel and they both served me well. Or at least good enough that I am writing this and the enemy isn’t posting on any forum.
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Deployment time is very important, too.
I have a PTR clone of the MP5K, works great with ball ammo. But chokes on Leighi Defense rounds.
Most of my mags are Turkish.
Can these guns be throated to feed rounds better?
Dunno whether it can be fixed, but MP5s are infamous for their preference for RN FMJ. The Lehighs are the flattened Phillips style, right?
My Turk AP5P (Century import version, not MAC version) would occasionally choke on the first or last round of fmj with Turk mags.
But it runs perfectly with HK mags. (15 & 30)
For JHP, it rarely got through a Turk mag without a stoppage. With HK mags, it works perfectly on MOST JHP’s. It chocked on a Gold Dot and several Critical Duty +P. But several other designs worked fine. It has cycled over 500 rds of Fiocchi 147 gr JHP (the Fiocchi bullet) without a problem. So, even though the powder makes a white fireball without the suppressor, that’s what i load it with if it’s “on duty”.
Even with the HK mags, it chocked on the LeHigh bullets loaded by Underwood.
I have a brace and 80 degree locking lug with it. It will occasionally fail to cycle 115 gr standard pressure, but I’m almost out of that stuff & won’t buy more. 124 gr and heavier in 9x19 for me & this, the only 9x19 gun i have left.
I sold all of my Turk mags and only have HK ones now.
I like the gun, but not the trigger. A bit heavy & long. I have a semi VZ61 with folding brace, three-lug, optic, and non-vertical forend “grip” that i enjoy firing more and it’s much lighter & compact. But…it has only 20 rd mags and fires 73 gr FMJ bullets @ 1100 fps. (7.65x17r / .32 acp) (S&B chronographed) Excellent trigger though.
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That’s correct.