Nice pics and comparison. Is that the regular or bonded Ranger?
No, dude. Ranger is a line name, not a bullet type. The bullet you showed is a Ranger also.
See this:
ETA: and who said they were armor piercing? Neither these, nor the original Black Talons, were AP. The black coating did exactly nothing.
Nope-- far from it. 55 FMJ’s did a classic breakup and did not go deep.
Ya got it. I was going through my boxes last night…I was mistaken.
I wasnt completely wrong though, They are also marketed as the Bonded PDX. I see what youre sayin though
OP - What are you carrying the .45 PDX in? My G30 will NOT cycle PDX-1’s, but my 1911s will.
It’s missing for me as well. When’s the last time you heard of a big bucket of water trying to break into your home or carjack you? 
A Kimber. and my cop buddy carries it in his duty SIG, a 229. I guess thats .40 though.
If that big red kool aid guy busts in you have to be ready.
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Lol nice. You win!:lol:
Bonded PDX is a completely different bullet…has no talons and a bonded jacket which experiences less overall expansion diameter. The PDX bullet is more like Gold Dots than Ranger Talons.
Got it. The round itself looks exactly like the ranger. I see what you mean about not having the “Talons” though.
Thanks for straightening that out
Op have you done any test’s with the 9mm pdx-1? If so can you post a picture? Thanks.
I havent but im planning on it with the G17. Now is it the PDX-1 or the Ranger you want to see?
2 inches of water to 1 inch of ballistic gelatin.
I made a a sort of trough a few years ago for holding a dozen 1 gallon jugs of water. I held it up on a pair of sawhorses. I drilled holes in the bottom to let it drain. It was open on one end, and I could clip denim to the opening.
After a few tries, I realized the plastic jugs were becoming a hinderance, so I marked off inches, 1/2 inches, and 1/4 inches on the bottom and started using 1 gallon ziploc bags instead. Using the 2:1 (water:gelatin), I get surprisingly accurate results. I’ve thought about writing up a paper, but I’ve never done a paper like that.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a comparison between the Ranger Bonded vs non bonded Ranger. And of course a comparison of the 135gr, 165gr and 180 gr if you have a .40 around. I think I have a few boxes of 3 or 4 of these so I could mail them to you for testing.
Here is a 9mm HST 124 grain.
It was shot out of a Glock 26 completely submerged
The ridges are clearly defined in the lead.
That would be really cool. Just PM me. I have plenty of .40 pistols
Does it matter if you shoot it vertical or horizontal when submerged?
I dont see why it would, Just curious
Op- the PDX-1 and if possible the 124gr +P that’s what I have been carrying lately. But only because none of my local shops carry good proven ammo. Thanks
Ill try on the +P. I would like to see that anyway.
Its hard finding good ammo at the stores where I live…NONE of them carry defense ammo. Maybe I can order a box