Tactical Outer Carrier - LE Soft Ballistic Insert Upgrade

I know this is a long shot, as I have searched far and wide to no avail. I thought you guys could help…

Does anyone know of a really good Tactical Outer Carrier (TOC), for soft ballistic inserts? I am familiar with the Eagle and Tactical Tailor versions but i’m not crazy about them. I am looking for something a little more aggressive, adjustable, and “for hard use.”

I am looking for a rig that receives my concealed vest soft inserts, but can also take a plate should the day require it. It needs to have velcro placard locations, good flank wrap-around, and I would prefer buckles over velcro. I want a full MOLLE platform as well.

One of the guys I work with referred to my issue TOC as “the trash bag.” SO, it’s time for a much needed upgrade. As usual, my agency won’t be paying for this.

Here is the style that I am looking for…

What I AM NOT looking for, is something “trash bag-esque,” like this…

Any ideas? Would I be best served going custom?

Thanks for any help!

HSD

Scan this thread. There’s some info in here.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=26174

Thanks Mark. Informative, but I did not find a solution.

HSD

I ended up having a custom Molle carrier made for me. Uncle Mike’s just released a Molle Carrier that might serve your needs.

I’ve been looking for something like that also. I want something fully adjustable, modular, and that will carry my authorized agency-issued armor panels as well as hard plates.

Most of the “trash bag” ones you see in police supply places aren’t adjustable.

Tactical tailor makes a carrier that looks interesting, but it will not hold hard plates:
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/modularpanelcarrier.aspx

Eagle industries is making one, but it isn’t adjustable at the shoulders and looks like it will hang over my duty belt:
http://www.eagleindustries.com/product.php?productid=720&cat=71&page=2

Most everything else is designed for BALC cut or SPEAR cut armor.

The other option is to look to who manufactured your armor. I noticed that some of the newer “tactical” carriers for soft armor are Molle types. I have had good luck working with Black OPS Tatical Nylon for custom stuff.

How about the Paraclete/MSA SOHPC?

GATORHAWK makes a good one… I’m in the same boat as you… Looking for a good carrier…

Protective Products makes this one and a few other variants…

NCPATROL - They MSA Rig looks great but won’t accept my panels.

DRUMMER - Yeah I am familiar with both the Eagle and Tactical Tailor versions, not crazy about either.

KMRTNSN - Any interest in posting a pic of your custom job?

KMRTNSN - I’m not crazy about Uncle Mike’s products but that version isn’t horrible. I could have someone make some simple mods for me.

Anyone else have any other suggestions?

I am looking at getting another carrier made. I am looking at these guys. Take a look.

http://www.beezcombatsystems.bigcartel.com/product/bcs-custom-carrier-dimensions

I’ve been using a BCS carrier for several years now, and it’s a good piece of kit.

I have the Eagle MOLLE carrier as linked above. I can assure you that it will not hang below your belt. Mine hangs down to my belly button which I find is perfect for me. I’m 5’10"/ 195lbs. It’s damn near perfect except that the waist straps were so long that I had to send the vest back to Eagle to shorten them. I got it back and they were still too long so I had a local tailor shorten them which according to Eagle voided my warranty. The other major flaw I found with it is that the side buckles which are what every carrier should have, are mounted to far forward to allow the side flaps to wrap around for a tight fit. I’m boggled because the way the vest is width wise, it could fit a horse, but height-wise, it wouldn’t fit anyone much taller than me. I’ve been wearing mine just about every day for 10 hour shifts and the loop Velcro on the sides is now pealing away from the vest. Other than these flaws, the thing is built like a tank, but I too am looking for carrier with your same requirements. At this point, I’m thinking of wearing my UC carrier and something like the 5.11 LBE with my MOLLE pouches to go over it.

Yeah the EAGLE version is so-so, but doesn’t meet my (our) needs and for the cost, I’m not willing to settle.

HSD

I have been using the BCS also. It is built like a tank and is extremely affordable. I use a harness seperately worn over the top of the carrier.

Mayflower Research and Consulting has a carrier that should fit most of your needs, sans the buckles. It is the best designed carrier I’ve seen/used. We should have a link up in about 2 days or so.

Is it this vest shown on their site? If so, it looks to be about perfect.
http://mayflower-rc.com/news/high-mobility-light-weight-armor-packages-21-mar-09/

High Speed, I have one of the “Trash Bags”. I had to take the vest to a local shop to be altered to fit. After all the alterations, it still feels too big and hangs down on my duty belt. I am looking forward to seeing the Mayflower vest.

Zushwa! That is exactly what I am looking for!

Thanks

HSD

Hey Josh,

The only Mayflower carrier I could find on your website is the low profile rig. Is that what you’re talking about, or is there a molle covered carrier coming also?