I have an EOtech 517 mounted on my AR-15 with 16" barrel, I like the fast acquisition on close quarter but i realized that it is a little hard for me to focus on a “longer” distance target mainly I think its because of the large 65 MOA ring around that tiny 1 MOA dot… I’ve read that having just a 2 MOA red dot is better on a “longer” distance shooting… I havr been thinking of selling my EOTech and replace it with Aimpoint CompML3 with 2 MOA dot… any advice? Pls help…
I have a cheaper Truglo red dot sight mounted on my mossy 500 and i can deffinately tell that i can acquire the target better and faster on longer range
Have you had any issues with your eotech or are you making the switch just because? Have you tried turning down the brightness for the longer range shots?
Dont really have an issue with it, its just when shooting at farther distance it seems like my eyes are taking longer to focus on target because it gets distracted by the large ring on EOtech
I find also that the eotech ring is obscuring at longer range targets.
It works fine at shorter ranges. I have a ML2 2moa aimpoint on my carbine. Eotech makes a version with out the ring just a plain dot. I have wondered if eotech will ever make a version that you can swap between reticules.
for me, I break the EO vs AP issue down into “defensive” vs “offensive” use of the weapon.
because the AP has a longer battery life and does not shut itself off after a period of time - allowing me to just leave it constantly on and change out the batteries every year - it is my choice for a “defensive/ bump-in-the-night” optic. I have both 2 and 4 MOA dots and don’t really see much difference however I recommend the smaller dot if you have a magnifier mounted behind it.
now, if I have time to acquire my weapon, turn on and adjust the brightness of the sight, and adjust it periodically during use so it doesn’t shut itself off just when I was expecting it to be on, then I enjoy the reticle of the Eotech better than a simple dot.
for rapid COM shooting out to about 20-25yds, the 65MOA circle works real well to bracket the chest area on silhouettes and IDPA type targets. at 10 yards it’s a 6.5" circle with a dot in the middle - whats not to like?..
further than this, I switch to the 1MOA dot. this is fine enough for more precision shooting in close and works great with a magnifier behind it for even longer distance.
my perfect optic would combine the reticle of the EO with the batt life and operation of the AP but I suspect those two things are mutually exclusive…
I pretty much agree with all of this. I have an Eotech 553 and switched it out for the Aimpoint T1. The main reason for this was weight reduction and battery life. It’s a shame AP Would do a retical similar to the Eotech 65/1 MOA dot. That was my main reason for getting the Eotech in the first place.
IDK, I have a 552 and a ML3 and I still like the Eotech better because of the field of view. Also my Aimpoint reticule seems to reflect of the sides giving me a 30mm ring sometimes and that’s annoying. But in the Aimpoint’s defense, I have not had much time behind it yet.
I don’t own an Aimpoint, but i’ve shot a few of them. I’ve also shot a number of eotechs. i only recently bought an eotech. I like it better for the AR because it provides faster target acquisition. At least in my opinion. Then again, i never considered the ar15/m16 to be a sniper rifle designed to shoot 300-500 yards. Not saying that it can’t, just that I’ve never considered it to be made for that purpose. If I wanted it to do that, i’d have a variable rifle scope on it. Besides for fun, I consider it designed for shooting people up to around 100 yards. Red-Dot non-magnification sights are nicer than iron sights because they are faster at acquiring your target. But for 300+ yards; it’s just not the weapon i would be using. So for me; the eotech acquires targets faster than the aimpoint; therefor i have the eotech.
I have shot both many times, and I like the field of view and the reticle better with the Eotech. That being said, I wish the Eotech had the same battery life of the AP. That would be the best combo IMO.
Just my opinion…I would keep the EOTech and use the money you would have spent on an Aimpoint to attend a Vickers/Magpul Dynamics type class. On the other hand, you could stock up on more ammo. Never a bad idea these days.
Best piece of advice here. First thing I do when I turn my XPS2 on is crank back the brightness about 3 clicks (as long as it’s not extremely sunny). Really helps a lot…
Ra2bach - The “offensive” and “defensive” remarks about AP vs EO are dead on. I’ve always thought that. You just worded it perfectly. Probably why many of the “go fast” guys still choose EOtechs - despite many combat advantages of AimPoint.
Now if only AimPoint and EOTech had a love baby. And not the “4moa dot with crappy battery life” kind. The other kind. But holographics and battery life don’t really go together.
Thanks for the replies guys… I’ve decided to keep my EOTech 517… I still like the quick aquisition of it and I just did a longer distance aim out of my bedroom window (with my AR-15 unloaded of course) and realized that by lowering the power down, i was able to focus on the target faster because the big 65 MOA ring is not glowing so bright…
yeah, if someone told me, “there’s some guys hanging out down at the end of the street. I want you to go down there and shoot them”, I’d probably use an Eotech.
however, if he told me, “stay here and watch this intersection. sooner or later somebody’s gonna want to come down here and shoot you”, I’d have an Aimpoint…
Is that strictly because of the “Battery”? Meaning, leaving it on 24/7? I can understand simply having a preference for one over the other; but not that the Aimpoint is somehow superior to the eotech. I don’t think it’s superior. If I had the rifle on a bipod, trying to take out a target 300 yards away, I’d prefer a rifle scope. However; a 3x multiplier for the eotech would work fine. But I could see the aimpoint preference. But for using the AR for what it was designed for, I don’t the the battery life is significant at all. The 8 hour timer on an eotech resets back to 8 hrs each time you press any button on the eotech. So, unless you were frozen in place for 8 hours and couldn’t move a muscle, I’d say that battery life isn’t a factor.