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Good on ya man… That shit will kill you. I’ve gone off and on with it for a few years now. Off at the moment, all I can say is keep hangin in there for the first couple weeks. After that it gets easier. Good luck man!
Well I never dipped, but I smoked plenty. I quit many times and once for over five years. I quit the last time in 2007. I was coming out of the operating room after suffering a heart attack. My cardiologist bent over the gurney and said “your smoking days are over” and that was it… All the time I was smoking I only thought of the cancer risk and never really considered the cardiovascular damage. Try to not follow my example of using tobacco for 30 years, before quitting. At least of the cancer don’t get you, your heart may survive…
You can do it. I dipped for a few years, but quit about twenty years ago. Occasionally I have dreams about it, when I wake up I’m so happy that I don’t dip. It really is a nasty habit.
I feel for ya brother. I dipped Kodiak for about 10 yrs. Tried several times to quit but every time I had a drink, stress, or too much time on my hands I jumped right back in.
After dating my now-wife for a year or two, I got tired of seeing my spit bottles around and just decided that I was strong enough to beat this and that I was done!
I started out cold turkey, and when I had a weak moment I would go buy a tin, throw in a dip as soon as I left the store, then chuck the rest of the tin up on the roof or in a dumpster so that I wouldn’t have in when I wanted the next one. I probably did that 1/2 dozen times till I was like sh1t… I’m not paying 5 bucks for 1 dip, I’ll just go to sleep, or go the gym, or go run, etc.
It was tough for about 3-4 months but I just kept challenging my manhood, my toughness, or any imaginary scenario where if I had a dip something would happen to someone I love, etc etc. It worked and I haven’t had a dip in about 7-8 yrs.
Good luck! You can do it! Man up!
It’s hard to quit but once you get a couple weeks in you will be on your way.
The hard thing is when you are around people dipping. Makes me want one every single time they pull a can out.
Of course I take one occasionally and it usually makes me about half sick if I leave it in too long.
I’m a month into quitting smoking and my entire quality of fitness has improved. Having just gotten married and training for SFAS, I have tons of motivation from that alone.
It was a little hard for the first week, but staying active made it a lot easier. Hang in there, bro, and good luck!
In the event that you do fail again, or you view nicotine dependency as less severe than alcoholism, give Swedish Snus a try. No spitting, A LOT of nicotine, no mouth sores or cancer.
Snus has a DECREASED risk of oral cancer, not zero risk, and there is a statistically increased risk of pancreatic cancer. The only good thing you can say about Snus is that it’s healthier than smoking. And note that the American brands of “snus” may not be processed in the same way as the Swedish brands, may have higher levels of nitrosamines and armomatic hydrocarbons, and be as dangerous as snuf.
Oral cancer is a bitch. I’ve taken care of patients with it, and I’ve had it myself.
I never dipped, but I smoked for 5 years… Quit cold turkey last Thanksgiving and have been completely tobacco-less since then. It is SO worth it, not a day goes by that I don’t think about why I started in the first place… and how thankful I am that I quit.
Like many others, I “quit” numerous times. The first time was because my girlfriend at the time hated it, and didn’t want me to smoke. That lasted a few days before I just started sneaking in smoke breaks and changing my clothes before meeting her. The second time was for money, and I was spending $100 a month on cigarettes. That only lasted a few days before I started bumming cigarettes from friends or rolling my own to save money. The third time was when I transferred jobs and began working at a smoke-free campus. Well, that only lasted a few days before I found some hiding spots around work, or going to my car and driving around the block on my lunch breaks.
The final time I quit was for ME. I finally said I don’t care about what others think, or the money, or the job. Sure, those are some awesome motivators for quitting, but they weren’t the REASON I wanted to quit… I wanted to quit to improve my health, because I was getting winded going up flights of stairs. I was disgusted with how my clothes and car smelled, what it made my teeth look like, and coughing all the time. I finally told myself at Thanksgiving dinner that instead of driving down to the convenience store to buy another pack and smoke a cigarette (my family at the time didn’t know I smoked), I wanted to keep sitting at that table enjoying time with the family. I wanted to quit FOR ME.
If you focus on improving yourself, rather than other reasons, I found quitting to be easier. Also, sunflower seeds… lots of sunflower seeds.
What’s your thoughts on the E cigs? For smokers, seem a far better choice even if it does not lead to them quitting. They get the nicotine minus many of the compounds best avoided in cigs it seems. Some do use them to quite (slowly titrating the dose of nicotine over time then stopping) but some are using them an alternative to smoking. Also makes life easier for everyone around them on the second hand smoke issues.
Chew not not in hailed probably not good fit as a replacement. I’d guess the issues of chew are similar to smoking in that there’s both the actual drug component (nicotine) and the tactile/physical components, Some of the E cigs even light up on the end when you take a drag.
What about nicotine gum? Not the same thing for sure, but it’s chewing on something and getting nicotine.
I think E-cigarrettes are fine as a transition to quitting altogether. Generally, substituting one addiction for another, even a less dangerous one, is a crutch that will end up biting you in the ass if you don’t use it as a transition with a goal of eliminating.
A few years ago the Farrier was shoeing my daughters horse when he took a dip. I askes about it and he said try some, I took a wad and stuck it between my cheeks and gums as instructed and started to feeling sick but I held it in then started feeling woozie then laid on the ground in a fetal position for about 20 minutes. Don’t like the stuff!
I’ve known several people that died from smoking. The crying, wishing, lamenting, and regret they expressed when they knew they were terminal!
I know two people that had oral cancer from snuff, one started dipping again about a month after oral surgery. Oh and the irony of how dippers will look down on smokers because their habit doesn’t bother others like second hand smoke does.
And yes, the cigarettes are making you cough, it’s not some mysterious ailment the experts haven’t figured out yet.
Here is a suggestion for anyone who is considering giving up dipping, chewing or smoking:
If you can find a survivor of a radical neck dissection and radiation treatments. Go visit him. Just take a good, long, hard look at the pitiful man.
That may convince to quit now before it is too late.
Everything I have seen has shown a minimal increase in risk of pancreatic cancer, and no increase in oral cancer than non-users.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17498797
http://www.tobaccoprogram.org/pdf/TC12349.pdf
Could you please provide me with the studies you have seen showing an increase in oral cancer?
And yes, the “American” snus is garbage. Technically dip is American snus (brought over by Swedish immigrants). Dip is fermented instead of steam pasteurized like snus (which kills the nitrites).
I’ll do you one better. I went to visit my mother in the hospital after throat cancer and radical neck surgery and stoma. She asked for a pen and pad. She wrote something and handed it to me. It read:
“F-ing cigarettes!”
RIP ma.
There you go…my sympathies, bro. Awful way to die.
What a dumb cluck.