Reasons to upgrade NVGs? (binos, WP, etc)

There’s a lot of ways to tie down NODs. I’ve been to different training that all required different tiedowns for various equipment, but the simplest way is to route gutted 550 around the body of your -14, secure it to itself with a weight bearing knot, then make a separate loop with a weight bearing knot that you attach a small carabiner to. You can keep it secured within a pouch this way, then simply attach the carabiner to your helmet (either another loop of 550 on the shroud, a piece of nylon on a helmet cover, a helmet band, whatever).

It won’t win cool points on Instagram, but the guys who knock tiedowns most likely never had to tell their Squad Leader that they lost their NODs. It’s been 11 years and I’m still sore.

The helmet lanyards do nothing to secure your NODs in a pouch; where they will live the majority of the time.

I keep my PVS-14 secured to a carabiner within a small general purpose pouch and use a SAM splint as a protective insert.

As for helmet/etc;

  1. The Norotos Dual Dovetail Adapter is fantastic.
  2. Go with the G24 if you can afford it. They keep a lower profile when stowed than Norotos arms, and this is from a guy that uses an AKA2 and wishes it was a G24.
  3. Team Wendy Exfil LTP; you’ll love it.
  4. If your NODs are stowed, just turn them off. Yes; the DDA will maintain the auto-off function. It will not turn back on- it simply kills contact when stowed and you have to manually turn it to off and then back on again. So if you’re gonna stow a PVS-14…just turn it off.

“Go ahead and elevate your stupid effing feet”

hahahaha

Tie your shit down, guys.

Bro-

It was a religious experience. And yep- my NODs were found, but you can bet I never lost shit again.

If you like reading test data, these are interesting

A Comparison of Monocular, Biocular, and Binocular Night Vision Goggles for Traversing Off-road Terrain on Foot
ARMY RESEARCH LABORATORY
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4ac9/21ec6a7373f26c2e51fb61edeb43332fdc1b.pdf

Night Vision Goggle Research and Training Issues for Ground Forces: A Literature Review
United States Army Research Institute for the Behavioral and Social Sciences
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a347071.pdf

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Well she arrived! Carson lenses, Vyper-C body, L3 UF WP 1701 tube. Thoughts/ideas/how is this?

photocathode 2856k: 2203
EBI: 0.1
Luminescence gain: 64,204
SNR: 34.1
Center Res: 64
Center Res (high light): 36
Halo: 0.7

Zone 1: Clean, Zone 2, Clean, Zone 3 (One) blem, 0.003-0.006
(X) Dark Spots </=0.003 are acceptable

oddly, there was only 1 blem on the L3 sheet, but I’ve found a couple, lol! Overall I’m very pleased as the only one I really notice is the one at around 8:30, and I’m assured it’s okay and won’t enlarge or anything bad/isn’t a sign of air at the tube or anything funky.

Tonight was a very dark night. Cloud cover, no stars, and I live in the middle of nowhere (taken sometime after midnight with full cloud cover).

This thing soaks up light! It was EXTREMELY dark with no moon, no stars, no artificial light sources.

This was taken a bit earlier, around 10pm, when the clouds still had a bit more glow to them:

Those specs seems solid. That EBI is killer, Halo is pretty good too, and the SNR paired with it really makes that a solid tube.

I’d be excited for sure.

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I actually ended up trading it off. Exchanged it for a L3 warrior systems 22um tube 2376fom minimum spec MNVD. Reason was the mnvd owner wanted a vyper body for use with kve shoes on a bridge with thermal, and I wanted a pvs14 body for use with a norotos dda. It worked. Being as it’s what it is, I dont know the specs, but its solid.

I don’t need NVGs. I don’t need NVGs. Then this thread happens.

#$@#.

Lots of good info in this thread. Thanks for sharing everyone. If only it was in a NODs sub-forum…

Gotta say, being a johnny come lately with a WP PVS-14 and helmet setup…

If you are at all a shooter and not a gun accumulator with the potential need to shoot at night for pest control (hawgs, yotes, other undesirable things)…

DO IT.

DO IT NOW.

It’s very wrong that I don’t have night vision. Gotta check coming, might have to bite the bullet.

PB

Yeah, definitely do it. I took the plunge recently myself. Only regret is not doing it sooner.

Call Robert @ JRH…He’ll get you hooked up with something nice.

If you’re selling a 14 for 1k, contact me

Edited to add: oops, read that wrong, disregard.

What are most people running nowadays? Are the 14s passé with everyone transitioning over to dual tubes?

I went from a 14 to bridged 14s to binos. Selling the old stuff as I upgraded.

But I still see a lot of people at night events with just 14s.

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Don’t let anyone tell you that you have to buy a $10K dual tube system to: drive, have depth perception, do CQB, etc. This is BS.

Everything you need to do you CAN do with a monocular. It just gets easier to do with a dual tube set.

This coming from someone that sells NV for a living and ran a 14 for years.

Dual tube units make it easier but you can do the same things with a 14 as long as you are willing to train a bit.

I 100% agree with Robert above and honestly believe in some cases that a single 14 offers more advantages. Binos or dual tubes are great for big open spaces and IMO extended wear times beyond that I dont really see that much more of a plus. I would spend the extra money between a 14 and set of dual tubes on a higher spec tube and better IR Laser/Illuminator like a MAWL. A single 14 give you the advantage of much faster low/white light transitions plus being able to read many natural lighting conditions with your unaided eye. If you dont run your gain stupidly high you will be amazed what your unaided eye can bring to the party.

If your shopping for a set of dual tubes and overlook articulation and gain control your giving up ground if you want to be dynamic and function better under all conditions. There are many times with my NVD BNVD SG ULs I roll my dominate eye tube up out of the way as at a door or breach point where there might be high probability of having to go to white light or in very rugged terrain where I want the added peripheral or natural vision.

If your looking for Night Vision dont hesitate to reach out to JRH Enterprises. Robert will keep it real and carries a great product line. I have not bought from them myself but they have a great reputation in the Night Vision community.

This is pretty good info, and the BNVD SG UL is awesome.

My favorite platform as well, very popular.

Wish Id have known about the M4c discount when I bought mine. I think y’all might have given me a .mil discount, though. Don’t remember.

We need a NV sub…