Reasons to upgrade NVGs? (binos, WP, etc)

What is it that the “binos owners” rave about? Just feel like I’m getting two different lines, and both are the truth :frowning:

It’s worth noting that the majority of people who buy their NODs treat them like a status symbol.

I understand, but even the military is replacing the PVS14 with binos, and that gives me a big pause.

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I understand wanting to be informed before a big purchase like this. I am/was too, like I mentioned. But I think you’re agonizing over the decision a little too much.

A lot of good work was put in by sneaky dudes under a single tube for a LONG time. Neither of us are professional users, so for us, it’s more of a want/need balance we have to strike. For me, the minimum viable product to get me in the game and answer all these questions is the PVS14. How much I actually train with them, how my brain performs with just one tube, funds availability, etc will dictate if I feel the need to advance up to duals.

Also, With current events, I’m sure I’m not the only one feeling the need to have this “prep” checked off the box…hence the huge rush right now for everyone and their brother to buy nods. Delivery timelines and “hand select” spec picking played a major role in the vendor I chose…which is not TNVC.

WS6, your PM box is full…trying to reply.

Problem solved, apologies!

Not entirely true.

Can you expound? It just seems like lots of people would rather run an omni V tube bino than super tube pvs14 based on every thread but this one that I’ve ever read, and those threads had solid posters of known background as well. Just trying to better understand.

Just buy binos.

If one were looking to acquire a decently spec’d PVS 14, and he owns land and can use them anytime he desires and isn’t concerned with just flexing on the 5 digit earners, where is a good place to shop that won’t take more time to receive them than a Form 4 tax stamp?

Kosher Surplus has PVS14’s in stock with good specs.

Thank you, I’d never heard of Kosher Surplus.

I’d be surprised if 5% of shooters have NODs. I bought my rig a decade ago and I didn’t have any others in my circle with one. Ten years later, I’m still the only one with a functioning rig…and by that I mean NODs, helmet/mount, PEQ and training on it. It’s “been on the list” of four of my guys for a long time but no progress.

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I decided to purchase a PVS14. After reviewing the fact that I will pay taxes on my stock profits, as well as the fact that a 14 “definitely gets me in the game”, and I moved just fine with one last time I used one, I decided to save the coin on binos and go with a PVS14.

L3 filmless WP tube w/datasheet, dated July 2020
64,200 biolume gain
34.1 SNR
0.1 EBI
0.7 Halo
64 lp/mm (I will not magnify)
Spec sheet shows one blem .003-.006” in the outside of zone 3.

Here is a photo through the device. I think I saw the blem, dunno.

in a Vyper body with Carson glass, 2 year tube warranty, and 5 year housing warranty, through the manufacturer (UNV). I confirmed with the stocking dealer that Carson glass was used throughout.

My next question:

I need a helmet, and I need a mount, and I need a tether, and I want to know if I should use a counterweight of some type or not, if so, what? I THINK I want a Norotos INVG mount with the dual dove-tail. Do I? I understand that if I stow the device, it will instantly shut it off? Will it ALSO turn back on, unlike the Wilcox G24, or no, when re-deployed? I would strongly prefer a Team Wendy helmet for their suspension system. How would I mount a Norotos on this?

I want a bump helmet, not ballistic. I want to integrate my Peltor Tac 6’s on it, as I don’t need comms, and they are cheap and when they die I get new ones. My nugget measures roughly 21.5" circ.

I also wanted to thank everyone here who humored this agonizing process along the way, who helped, and who contributed. I ask a lot of stuff.

That is who I went through. Yes, Benny suffered the gauntlet of 5 billion questions. Yes, I researched Kosher as well as UNV through multiple friends of mine. Everyone seems G2G. I bet Benny is tired of my minutia, but dude is easy to deal with, very responsive, and knows his product.

I saw the blem right away, then I scrolled the page a bit and realized it was a spot on my computer monitor. :laugh:

Buy a team wendy bump. Wilcox g24 is bougie. Dual dovetail is 100% worth it. I can’t speak to the INVG but it looks cool.

Aftermarket lanyards are a meme generally. Rig up some 550 cord instead. I have one of the Trex bungee lanyards in my lid and has the added benefit of adding a little stabilization to my RNVGs but it was free.

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Thanks! I know zip about lanyards other than its intended function. Will 550 fit through the pvs lanyard loop?

It will work just fine, if you have any issue use a small zip-tie and connect it to the 550 cord.

I agree with GTF425, I like The PVS14 over Binos. I had access to Binos for years and choose to stick with my 14s. I like the versatility of having a only one eye covered.