Well we were perhaps a bit more rural than you were. You see my Mother went to College, She didn’t finish, but She instead raised seven Kids.
She was happy, She enjoyed her life and is very fulfilled.
Later in Life after wee all moved out and all of her Husbands had died, She ended up the Senior Secretary for the School System, ran the Meals for Wheels and was a Administrator for the local Hospice.
So you really can raise a Family, be a good Mother and be successful in Business. You just can’t expect to do all of that before your Forty.
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Did they take vows when they got married? If so, I’ve never heard vows that have an exception that allows cheating for any reason. These women you speak of are cheating hoes with no honor that are not worthy of being trusted by anyone.
There you go. Even though I said nothing of the sort, you have to throw in something moral that makes me look like I’m the “bad man”. I never once said that men should beat women up, or subjugate them, or that it gets me off thinking about it. You just throw stupid shit in there to try and detract from the main point. Which you acknowledged, btw.
The whole conversation was that feminism and the notion that women don’t need men and don’t need to appeal to the patriarchy is a bullshit idea. They have to, or the rights they have can and will be taken away by evil men. It takes good men to protect those rights. Feminism is a lie that you and feminists spout without realizing and thinking it through thoroughly that what you are saying is actually bullshit.
Women don’t have to appeal to men it is true, and the ones who choose not to can avoid the company of men. Men can do the same.
I could care less if some people choose that route, the future belongs to those who show up. So women who like men and do what they can to be successful in those relationships and vice versa on the man’s side of the equation will have more kiddos. If the kiddos are raised in a good two parent home they will have a huge advantage entering the future that now belongs to them.
The purple haired lesbos, girl bosses trying to have kids in their mid 40’s, hardcore man hating feminists, man children who never grow up, homosexuals, and dudes who simp for Only Fans models instead of asking some girl out in real life generally will not have kids at all. Genetically they have no future, as it should be since they will end up failing their biological imperative.
The few who do manage to reproduce are typically poor parents and their offspring end up seriously disadvantaged entering adulthood similar to any other single parent situation except with an extra dose of bad parenting on top.
Here’s the problem I see: Both sexes have learned bad behaiors, and the misbehaviors of each drive the other’s pendulum to swing harder. Toxicity in one breeds toxicity in the other in reply, which in turn breeds doubling-down across the aisle, and so on. Much like how the Radical Left begets a Radicalized Right rather than anyone one either side stopping to ask “hey, who’s the fucker really benefiting from this?”
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They feel the men failed to adore / love them in thier language thus abandoning them first. Then the men make splitting up a daunting / dangerous proposition. These kinds of men create the perfect conditions for thier wife to get picked up by someone else.
How is feminism a lie?
“Love/Adore in their language” being a codeword for “buy me whatever I want even if it means having to liquidate your entire net worth and rob your own family blind.”
The root of it, and the real problem in M/F alike, is our Culture of Entitlement replacing the Culture of Responsibility.
This, totally This.
I remember speaking to my Ex Father in Law at Christmas on the phone. He wanted me, begged me to take his Daughter back.He explained how it would be hard for my Son not to have a Mother and on and on.
She wanted what She wanted, but also wanted My Son, My House and half of everything in my account. She wanted to be married and have a Boyfriend too.
She Wanted, She Wanted, She Wanted.
So She’s a Doctor now, very well respected in her field, got some money, got some respect and all it cost her was her dignity and her entire Family.
I couldn’t explain to my Son what happened. He’s figured it out now and He loves his Dad for what He did.
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I disagree. For some women, sure.
Not for all, but for far too many…
Sounds like they’re just selfish whores with princess syndrome to me.
You’re sounding more and more like a simp. I hate to say it, but you make a lot of excuses for poor female behavior.
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What’s your definition of “Simp”?
And if you eat that Sh*t once She will make sure it becomes a regular part of your diet.
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What you have been doing in this thread.
You have a strangely high tolerance for selfish, irrational, and often detrimental behavior when it is displayed by females. You have gone so far as justifying this behavior.
I find this a bit perplexing, but I know more than a few guys who just can’t bring themselves to realize that women should also be held accountable for their behaviors. Whether it is legal accountability, or just social accountability like correctly identifying when a woman is acting like an entitled gold digging whore and calling her out on it. You don’t seem to be supportive of female accountability.
This is what I would categorize as being a simp.
Not to say that men aren’t without plenty of behavior issues that should also be mocked, ridiculed, and shamed. Happily enough men do get called out all the time for their poor behavior. As it should be.
I’m personally all for equality of opportunity, but that should also include consequences.
For example the concept of “no fault divorce” should be eliminated and fault should be assigned in a divorce. Winner take all to include kids. I wonder how many women would be initiating divorces if this were the standard? I’m willing to bet their behaviors end a lot more marriages than men’s behavior.
To me, a Simp is a guy who gives alot but gets nothing or nearly nothing in return.
That’s not me.
Divorce should be pretty easy. Nobody should have to stay in a bad relationship. But that’s as far the government is concerned. If it was a church / temple marriage that’s another thing.
I don’t see men being any more accountable than women. That can’t really be forced on anyone. I think that’s something people learn as children. Or not.
Well in the event of a divorce women seem to rarely be held accountable for their actions being the cause of the divorce.
Like I said no fault divorce shouldn’t be a thing, it holds no party accountable if there was legitimate wrong doing or effective breach of contract.
That’s not to say no fault is something both parties could agree to, or that a presiding judge could determine. Even in that instance a 50% split of assets is stupid. It should be based on W2’s and tax returns and split by percentage of income earned in the marriage during the course of the marriage. Alimony should be outlawed.
Terms of a marriage should also be spelled out very very clearly. If both parties want the option to screw other people and they agree then that’s fine. If that agreement is not in place and one party decides they’re not being loved in a language they understand (as you put it which is freaking simp city by the way) then they lose everything for breach of contract that wasn’t covered in a prenuptial agreement that they owned prior to marriage.
I think the important thing to remember is that you are far too late to teach your kids things when they are 16. If you aren’t continually teaching your kids from an early age, you are failing them.
It is common to blame women for divorce, and in plenty of cases it is true, but we all know plenty of guys who cheat on their wives and do nothing but complain about them. Teach your kids that it takes a lot of work to make a successful marriage. If your values involve God, instill in your children those values through the example of how you live your life.
Regardless of what you say, its your actions that your children emulate.
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While I agree that there are certainly issues on both sides, this isn’t a both sides are equally responsible problem. Feminism has failed women and men far more than men have failed women.
Don’t you get it? Cheating hoes are always going to have an excuse for their behavior! I’d actually respect them more if they acknowledged they were wrong but were doing it anyway simply because they’re selfish.
The primary problem with no-fault divorce is that it has setup a scenario where women who get bored and/or cheat are awarded with cash and prizes when they file for divorce. They generally get half the marital assets, alimony and primary custody of the children. As a result, men are mostly removed from their children’s lives, have a huge portion of their life’s earnings taken through no fault of their own, and literally have to pay a woman who didn’t honor her vows to him simply because he made more than her. The cherry on top of this scenario is when the woman moves her new boyfriend into the house that the man primarily paid for. It’s unconscionable that the law promotes situations like this.
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I think people use about the same amount of care when picking out a Spouce as they do a Car. She’ll be with 4 to 6 years and I will trade it in.
We’ve created an entire Industry around getting Married and geting Divorced.
Now if everyone all bought the same rings and all had a Wedding with only their spouce and clergy present.
If you take all the drama out of it and go with a very simple private ceremony with simple adornments perhaps people would look at it Differently.
Yeah nobody should have to stay in a bad relationship, but in a court of law, you should be able to explain why we should nullify or continue to nullify your errors?
It was a long time ago, but my Grandmothers Family was fairly well to do. Well She married my Grandfather who didn’t have a pot to piss in and was a Sharecropper on a Corn Farm in Indiana. I’m pretty sure had She the chance She would have abandonded Ship the first time She had to go pick shit covered eggs out from angry cold Hens on a morning in December in Indiana.
And I think Grandma was 17 at the time.
So, I’m not sure what the answer is, it doesn’t fit any type of logical pattern.
I’m no one to talk here, for most of my Military Career I was Single, but for a while I fell in to a pattern of get married, deploy, get divorced and I repeated that more times than I would like to admit.
I would come home to no money or my Wifes New Boyfreind sleeping in my Bed, or both.
I’m cool now, I have a traditional marriage and we fit like hand and glove, so all’s well that ends well.