New M4C Software... Issues and how to navigate the new system

Hey. I’m an IT guy and a Discourse expert who was peripherally involved in the migration. I might be able to help with some of the issues. If you or your IT folks need another hand, please send me an email. (I’d send a PM but messaging is disabled, for me at least).

It’s telling that this thread is the #1 thread right now… I’m only back because it was at the top of the e-mailed “update.”

The dark format is literally totally unacceptable — I can’t read the black font on the dark grey background.

I spent 10-15 minutes trying to fix it in the settings, and failed.

It was nice while it lasted…

If that’s everyone’s big complaint, that’s an easy fix (EDIT: for the site admins).

Yeah… black on dark would be tough to read.

Preferences, Interface, then select Theme Default. That will get you dark background and white text. So far there isn’t an option for light background and dark text for general forum reading, only in text reply boxes, drop down menus and reply quotes.

Apparently not…

And given that this is 2024, it gasts my flabber that this was launched as is.

No option for light background and dark text? Really? REALLY?!

It didn’t occur to ANYBODY who wrecked this forum that anybody would want to read dark text on a light background?! (Like we all have for millenia?)

Other gripes: The “quote” message doesn’t work, or at least I can’t figure it out, after several good faith attempts.

This forum is now like any other that I frequent (and I’m on several other gun, car, and bike forums), and NOT in a good way.

Apologies. I don’t really belong here, but I noticed this discussion and make my living with the software that people are unhappy with. It’s fairly common that people are unhappy with change, but the vast majority of the time people are pretty happy to have moved after a month or two.

Highlight/select the text you want to quote and click the quote button.

You can also do this after you have started writing a reply to quote severall passages and even from other posts on any topic on the site.

I didn’t mean that you could do it, but that it’s not hard for the site owners to change that.

That was answered in post 28 of this thread.

Aha, my mistake…

In my defense, it’s a piss-poor UI that requires instructions.

Ever read the directions for how to navigate Amazon’s website?
(Duh, there aren’t any, because it’s intuitive and easy to use.)

Jay, you’d need a few more posts to unlock messaging since you’re a ‘New User’ by post count.

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YouTube links are easy. No need for a button, just cut and paste the YouTube video address and this forum automatically formats it.

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Thanks still trying to adapt. I think the thread options changeover is throwing a lot of people off. Sometimes I try and quote somebody but forget to highlight it and it doesn’t happen.

Given what seem to be most of the gripes here, it seems to me what might have avoided this is if there had been a pinned “How to use the NEW site features” post by the admin/IT crew…
I didn’t know the YT vid embed was now an auto feature simply pasting a link would activate. I was looking for the “video insert/code” button still too.
Although I don’t know how some folks could not figure out the quote feature… haha

Also I am getting, on PC, a black/dark grey background with white text, and orange highlights.
Quote boxes are white with black text. I never changed any settings so… maybe different on PC vs phone?

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You also don’t need to highlight. Select a comment you want to reply to. Hit the reply button. Up in the upper left is a little bubble symbol next to the B for bold icon. Click that and it will quote the entire post you are repling to.

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For me, the layout just sucks, it looks awful. And that has nothing to do with changing something I was comfortable with. To me, the old site looked great. I could see immediately when there was a new post or topic. I don’t need notifications, unless I’m buying or selling something on a site. For me, it seemed more user friendly. It’s been said that the old site was slow, but I don’t care. Slow was the dial-up era.

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The complaints about it being slow are from the last couple months before it moved. It was incredibly overrun with bots in that time, and I suspect there is more to the story.

Thanks, to those that figured out quoting. I appreciate it. I will say, picture posting is much easier, for me. Despite multiple tries, and coaching from Stickman and others, I never was able to get it right on the old site.

Seems silly to have to hit an extra symbol, but OK.

I was doing that it doesn’t always work.

“Oh it’s the end of civilization!, The sky is falling, and our lives are ruined!!!”

Dogs and cats sleeping together!!

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When it does work, it is the greatest(maybe only) improvement in the new program.

The lack of pages within a thread may be the worst.