I bought a registered receiver M16. It has serious damage that was not disclosed. The seller is willing to pay the repair cost.
The fire control group holes are seriously egged out and some clown tried gouging the receiver into the pins to stake them. The trigger guard ears may also be damaged but I can’t be sure as there is a bunch of JB weld type crap in that area near the mag well where the trigger guard attaches (frozen/stuck).
Who offers M16 registered receiver repair services that can fix egged out fire control group holes and that you would recommend? What does this type of thing normally cost (again the seller offered to cover it but I am just curious). Is this even possible (if it can’t be repaired they have offered a refund)?
Wow that really sucks. I can’t help you on the recommendation butI would get a refund. If you paid anywhere close to market price for it, you are going to be out serious bucks on the investment even if its repaired well. I’d get out now and not try to rehab it.
I will second this. Even repaired, it will not be worth as much as one that is in good working order. I’d take the refund and go back to looking. Personal opinion. Hope it does get sorted out for you OP.
For the egged out holes you could bore them out and have repair sleeves turned and bonded in place. Loctite makes a good product for such applications. Any machine shop could do that kind of work but you would need to be able to tell them the location of the holes because with the existing holes wallowed out they couldn’t accurately pick up their true position with an indicator. As for technical legalities and a regular shop that isn’t an SOT I would imagine you would just have to be there with the receiver while the work is done. I think you would generally be looking at about $60/hr in machine shop labor. 7075 aluminum is not weldable so any type of weld repair is out. If you opt for repairs I would expect a hefty partial refund in addition to repair costs.
Unless you paid significantly less than market value, I would suggest a refund. Even once it has been repaired it will still always command less money than a transferable lower that has not been damaged.
If you choose to have it repaired, M60Joe and Victor at US Anodizing are who you need to seek out. M60Joe has repaired some seriously busted M16 lowers. You will want to send to victor at US Anodizing for re-anodizing after Joe corrects it.
Seriously though, get a refund and them have the guy contact me for the substantially discounted price from whatever it is you paid which I hope was below market value. For the right price I’ll put some effort into 'er.
M60joe if you can’t get acceptable $ back or return it. If Herb does the work, may claw back a little value. Little being the key. Would be surprised if he can’t find a solution.
Why would you pay for a transferable machine gun without inspecting it?
What does registered receiver M16 mean? What exactly are we discussing here? A from the manufacturer select fire rifle or some kind of tranny conversion? I suspect the later. I gonna throw the flag on “egged out” hammer and trigger pin bosses. 7075-T6 aluminum is harder than a bulls balls. Some crazy f’ed up shitz would have to be going on to damage a properly manufactured lower receiver.
I’d love to see photos of said egged out receiver.
It means exactly what it sounds like - a registered and transferrable M16 lower receiver. The lower is the firearm in the eyes of the law and the ATF. I don’t doubt the OP is talking about an entirely factory lower. Others will correct me if I’m wrong but my understanding is that no “conversions” to full auto have been allowed since 1986. Your options for a full auto AR are to buy a transferrable lower (registered pre-1986) or buy a registered drop-in auto sear. That’s it.
The youngest of these receivers are over 30 years old. I’ll bet many of them have been used as rental guns and have seen 100’s of thousands of rounds in their lifetime. Mil-spec trigger and hammer pins are likely hardened to above 40 HRC - much harder than any aluminum alloy. Wallowed out holes happen and M60joe has pictures on his site of ones he’s repaired.
I bought it on Subguns.com, a reputable board. It was purchased from an individual via a broker. Their were pictures and a full description. Problem is they were not true or accurate. The broker appears to perhaps have been honest, the individual was not. It was basically a fraud, a bait and switch. The middle man broker is actually the one making it right, to protect their rep and avoid court.
REFUND. The thing is once you attempt any repair, it’s yours. You know what’s wrong with it, even if you fix those things you are going to be mighty pissed if a hairline crack appears after a few mags.
You are lucky if an honest person is involved. I’ve been in this situation. Had a well liked customer buy a HK registered sear and what actually showed up was a welded up piece of shit that had once been a HK sear. The seller did damn near everything he could to keep the cash including finding another buyer and asking ME to transfer it to the next dupe.
But I have to ask, how is it the person who brokered the receiver never saw it? I wouldn’t sell jack shit on subguns unless the item was in my actual possession or in very rare cases unless I knew the owner and the item very, very well.
