He did a commendable job, plain and simple.
When sitting in a studio with all the pressure, dealing with a jack-ass like that, being in the hot-seat if you will, it takes a strong mind to stay focused and get it right. Everything you say every gesture is out there, no re-wind or edit. We can sit here and monday quarterback all we want, (which I don’t think most of are doing), being there is an entirely different ball game.
Re: private sale, this is a real difficult issue - trying an objective assessment, playing devils advocate: there is a very strange dichotomy in the fact that I can sell any fire-arm to any other (Florida) citizen with little or no oversight, yet any FFL dealer has to jump though loopholes.
We all know full and well what the intent of this law is, but the practical application is quite often somewhat different. One has to be honest and admit the potential for abuse is tremendous, and happens more than we care to admit.
Not that I see a feasible solution either way…
Take that flame suit off. I think that is a good idea.
I do NOT agree with ending private sales. Simple comparrison is that car dealears have significantly more hoops than myself if I intend to sell my car. So, to me, that is irrelevent.
I personally believe in the core of the Bill of Rights, that these are natural rights that belong to all people. That means that in my ideal little world punishments for criminals would be harder and anyone who was not currently incarcerated would have all the rights that are natural to all.
Having said that. If universal background checks were a done deal I would love to see someone insert some kind of device(figurative) that would allow a blanket background check for an extended period of time. Attach it to my carry permit that I renew every few years, or allow me a yearly pass. That would allow my purchases to still remain somewhat anonymous.
This is a personal choice. One that is right for you. Are you saying we need a law so everyone will be forced to do the same? Making this a law does nothing but add $50 or so to the price of a used gun.
In NY. You cannot make or arrange a FTF sale in or around a gunshow. This is the way NY. closed the vile gunshow loophole. I have seen people arrested for this crime both buyer and seller. The police also will act as both. Altho most times all they need is binoculars. Still I have never been to a gunshow where I haven’t seen at least one not so well connected crook trying to buy a gun. If you sell to him you know who you sold to.
I’m getting a headache reading this stuff. When they eliminate FTF transfers and make us go through an FFL it will be the end of free transfers of guns. They will place new fees on transfers . I’m telling you when I die it will cost a small fortune for my kids to transfer all of my guns to themselves.
We don’t need more laws. Do you think I won’t be able to go down to the local bar and buy a pistol because someone closed the gunshow loophole?
Breathe. Just my personal choice/opinion/thinking out loud. I like the idea about CCW permit being a blanket approval for valid term of said permit.
Need heard of this Morgan guy until the last couple of weeks.
I watched the clip, I really don’t like him.
He’s arrogant and terribly holier than thou.
People like him is the reason I never watch television.
The “your little book” statement really made my blood boil.
Agree with you & popo
I won’t sell to anyone that gives me the wrong vibe and if everyone used this discretion we wouldn’t be discussing this, but that’s not the case. I’ve personally witnessed the gun show parking lot types roaming around and seen plenty of people willing to sell to them. I had a guy get irate with me just last summer because I wouldn’t sell him a pistol I had listed for sale without doing a transfer at his expense. Guy gave me the creeps.
Hehuhates is correct, though, it won’t stop shady sales, it’ll just drive them further into the shadows.
I’ve never heard of that guy, but we need more more people like him in the public light.
So thank you Piers, even if you are a perverse twit, you still can be used to support the Constitution.
Word. And in the same sentence says that he “respects the 2nd amendment and our rights as Americans”.
Ban shadows!
Ban crime.
A novel idea
My own personal opinon here:
I’ve bought and sold a few firearms in face to face private sales.
I’ve always asked for and provided ID.
When I privately sell a firearm under I do a bill of sale, which includes a statement from the buyer that states that they are legally able to purchase firearms and understand their operation. This is a measure to (weakly, admittedly) protect myself should the firearm be used improperly. If a system existed that permitted me to call and verify elidgibility I would do so, by my own choice, in a transfer of firearms. If the buyer would not be willing to abide that stipulation I would not conduct the sale. I have the right to sell or not to sell my property as I see fit, understanding that I may be held to some degree of accountability for the item’s use should it come into question.
I do not necessarily believe that it should be a legal requirement to do so, but having the option to do so would be good, in my opinon.
That’s a great idea. I do it as well, just another layer of protection should the need (God forbid) ever arise to provide proof of the transfer.
Absolutely agree. Just having the ability to access the system easily would be great.
In Nebraska we are required to have a “handgun card” ( or a ccw permit) in order to purchase a handgun. We hate it, but it’s easy to get. I’ve used that card as a requirement to do private sales with individuals in the past and about half the time they don’t have one or can’t get one.
It was the same way in NC, the hassle of which prevented me from buying a few pistols. Maybe that’s the intent. I bristle a little at the requirement to be fingerprinted and the ability of the Sheriff to limit the number of permits I could get at a time. I didn’t do any private handgun transfers in that state.
I don’t have one anymore since I have the ccw permit & don’t need it, otherwise I’d post a pic of it to show you how worthless it is. No fingerprints, just fill out a form & show picture ID & wait 3 days, that’s it. Unlimited buying for 3 years. It’s just a printed piece of card stock that looks similar to a soc security card. It could be EASILY faked, which makes it pretty pointless.
Anyway, didn’t mean to derail.
I’d be perfectly happy with a way to do NICS checks for private sales, as long as it was guaranteed not to leave a trail. There will always be illicit private sales, even with registration. Say a gun got ‘stolen’, and voila, you’ve bypassed it. Not a big leap for someone who is going to break the law with that gun anyway. That said, I (like most folks here) don’t sell to people I don’t know.
Nobody here would object, in theory, to finding ways to prevent criminals from getting otherwise legal guns. The issue is that the antis are really looking to prevent EVERYONE from getting guns, and the best way to do that is to start with universal registration. They’re playing a smart game, talking about background checks, and so we need to find a way to counter that line of talk with objective facts, or we’ll lose public opinion. After all, who can be against preventing criminals from getting guns that are otherwise legal for citizens? :rolleyes:
In CO, I require a CO DL and CHL before I sell a gun. In CA, we had to do the background checks through the dealer and wait the required 10 days, which was incredibly stupid.
While I don’t agree with a lot of what he said; I applaud him for keeping his cool and putting piece-of-shit morgan in his place.
Well done!! 
I actually think yes it should be a law that you have to run a background check on everyone buying a gun rather privately or through a dealer. What I want in place is a system that allows a private person to call in like a dealer does and do a background check on a potential buyer. Most of the criminals I have seized guns from (felons) have purchased their weapons privately. I don’t see this in any way as infringing on my rights as it does not stop me from owning any guns or magazines etc. It just makes it harder for people who are disqualified under the law from buying guns. We need to think long and hard about ways to keep guns out of the hands of bad guys or we will lose all of our rights eventually. Like I said before I am not for registration of firearms because I know it can lead to confiscation like it has in other countries.
Pat