Spent multiple years under cover trying to crack that group. He seems to have developed a certain level of respect for them, how/why he’s still alive I don’t know:
Hunter Thompson’s endeavors in this were epic as well.
I remember watching a late night show called “Good Night America” where Geraldo Rivera interviewed the Hells Angels.
I was about to leave the room and my Dad said "Wait, Geraldo is about to get his ass kicked. He did too.
Good, I haven’t liked that guy since he showed a map or something on TV during the Iraq invasion causing a good chunk of the 1rst Marine Div to get up and move. I had just layed down for my first sleep
In days.
He did a big meet and great after the war, shaking hands and stuff.
There was a lot of buttcrack on many of those hands.
He shouldn’t ever eat pizza again.
They’re are a lot of Hells Angels in my precinct. One of their main clubhouses was in my beat for a good amount if time.
For the most part they leave police alone. Usually very respectful with us and every interaction Ive had with them was quite pleasant.
Don’t get me wrong, they definitely are criminals. They will beat and murder people. But it’s not random citizens. Id much rather have them move into my neighborhood than Crips.
Exactly. They don’t like attention. In 2001 my business was burgled in the middle of the night by two Hells Angels prospects. We knew one of the original Hells Angels founders and he was a regular customer. We had a sit down with him and my mom chewed his ass since she knew his mom. He apologized and the issue was taken care of. We had another issue in 2021 with another prospect caught on camera shop lifting, but before I could do anything about it he self eliminated by a drug overdose. I’ve found they really want to lay low and off the radar. The few I see riding around with their vests on are all now senior citizens as well. I’m not sure how much they are growing around here.
I only have had one encounter with this group in my life. When I was in school back in '92 my brand new wife ran into car trouble one evening in a very bad part of Fort Worth. On the freeway no less. Cell phones were very new and very expensive. My wife was basically at the mercy of any good Samaritan that might be willing to help. Almost immediately, a Hell’s Angel pulled up behind her. He popped a couple of flares and asked my wife if she was OK. My wife was terrified. This dude fit the bill for a stereotypical biker right down to the beard and long greasy hair. My wife said she was fine and didn’t need anything…she was going to walk to a pay phone, all good. Mr. Hell’s Angel (his name was Dennis) said no way. He wasn’t comfortable leaving her alone in that part of town. He told her to hop on his bike and he would take her to a safe place to use a phone. I’m sure he saw the look of terror on my wife’s face…and as God is my witness he pulled out an old Colt detective special from his saddle bag, showed her it was loaded and handed it to my wife. He told her to put it in her coat pocket and if at any time she felt threatened she could just shoot him! So she said what the hell and he took her to a bar called the SuSu Lounge in west Fort Worth where she called me. Of course I raced up there but I shouldn’t have been worried at all. Dennis and my wife were playing pool and had a pitcher of cold beer. He wouldn’t leave until I got there. When he found out I was a poor med student he arranged for my wife’s car to be towed to his friend’s garage. Turned out to be a bad thermostat…when I went to pay the guy wouldn’t take my money.
I know these guys have a rep for being drug dealers and murderers. But you could have fooled my that night.
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People should look Jay Dobbins??… Dobyns?? Whatever who cares… look him up. Interesting dude for sure. Some say hero, others say villain. Who knows?
I remember that live. Couldn’t F believe it.
“Here we are now and here is where we are going.”
The dude is a full on idiot and it shows every time he opens his mouth.
Oh and 81’s aren’t the biggest scumbags on 2 wheels, at least they have a code.
I’ve had quite a bit of interaction with bikers. Had neighbors (twice) who were in HA affiliated clubs. “Hung out” loosely with a few HA’s and affiliates. Ventura, Simi, Ojai, down in AZ, etc. Hell, I was even a bouncer at a biker bar for a while. I have always gotten along well with the bikers I have known. Some “mostly” legit citizens, some were 1%'er outlaw bikers.
I know some of them were seriously bad guys. I just never saw that side of them. I have heard folks say that about “Mob/Mafia” guys. Might be true with gangbangers or every other flavor of criminal.
My wife and I rubbed shoulder with the Angeles during my 30 years of un-affiliated riding, never had any issues with them. Same for the Banditos’ but I did witness them apply corrective action on prospects.
I was a slickback in red and orange territory for many years. MCs have a unique code that should be followed when you encounter them. There are certain things you do and don’t do, say and don’t say, and if you respect these things, they will respect you back, and be a great bunch to hang out with. If you don’t, and granted you may do so accidentally, you may wish you never got out of bed that morning.
I’ve got a problem with anyone who can go undercover with a false Identity to rat out people whom he’s taken a blood oath with.
I really DGAF about how good the cause may be.
You swear, you swore.
I generally agree with you on most things, but F that. We infiltrate the mafia and lots of other shitbags, I don’t care “what pretend words or rituals” we engaged in.
Criminal gang that will often turn on eachother to stay out of serious time like all of them.
They always say they want “respect”. No, they want people to be scared of them and think they’re cool. What kind of person wants other, normal people to be scared of them? Bullies. So, they are criminals and bullies.
Lots of cool biker groups that aren’t criminals & bullies.
I don’t understand why an adult would want to join a a large, criminal gang. Rules, bosses, taxes, jail, injury, death. And you won’t get wealthy. And even if you did it won’t be for long and everything will snap back on you.
I get it.
You’re on a mission, you lie to the enemy / criminal like your life depends on it because it does.
Would you lie / swear an allegiance to say, ISIS or MS-13 if you were undercover working against them? I’d call that bravery.
I would say original oath of office to agency cancels out any “oath” to the criminal organization you are working.
All day long, unless you happen to be the biggest shitbag in the room and are willing to kill all the people who trust you the most.