FBI Facial Recognition to go Hot 2014...

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ETA: Title should read “FBI Facial Recognition to go Nation wide/hot 2014”

http://www.geekosystem.com/fbi-face-recognition-2014/

http://www.newsmax.com/US/fbi-facial-recognition-technology/2012/09/10/id/451302

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-fbis-dumping-1-billion-on-facial-tech-that-fails-nearly-10-percent-of-the-time-2012-9

The potential future world we all might be living in (Soon) gets more f’d up each day it seems.

Why is this system needed? At 1 billion clams what will be the ROI?

What is it with our gummints constant need to track us more and more? Seriously, why do we need to be so easily tracked everywhere we go?

How realistic is it that they will have this online/functioning in 2014?

A billion dollar system when we are 30-50 trillion in the hole; sounds fiscally responsible to me…

When will these intrusions become too much for us to take?

So here in a few years time the FBI/DHS/NSA is going to have 30,000+ drones in the skies spying constantly, tons of satellites specifically for spying and facial recognition software out in public following anyones every move…WHAT IS THIS ALL FOR?

Seriously, WTF? The azimuth we are on is more and more troubling each day, with each new pice of legislation passsed it seems we take giant leaps backwards and sell off our soverignty bit by bit- where are we headed?

I thought we lived in the land of the free. More like land of the fleeting at this point.

I get so infuriated with this stuff; I am paying to enslave myself!!! WTF!!! What F’d up time we live in; on the verge of bankruptcy and we are allocating funds to spy on ourselves…

Ludicrous!

And I know; “It is only to help catch terrorists/criminals; if you are a law abiding citizen you need not worry…” and all that BS…

With all the laws on the books and “terrorist” interpretation being wide open; I think we could all fall into the category of “Criminal/terrorist” these days if someone in the right agency with the right position wanted us to badly enough…

Thoughts, opinions?

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I am paying to enslave myself!!! WTF!!!

That is so true.

The other question is, with everyone over the age of 12 carrying a smart phone, why do you even need this? If someone over the age of 18 doesn’t have a phone on them, that is almost cause for concern. :wink:

They use the arguement that it is no different than if there was a cop sitting there, but the important distinction is that we don’t have a cop on every corner, and we never did. Our laws are based on the fact that most infractions are never even noticed never mind reported. When you can prosecute every single offense- or more likely prosecute every single offense of people that the govt doesn’t like…

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The government must enslave us in order to protect us.

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what movie was that from SteyrAUG ?

I seem to remember seeing it but cant place it ? or maybe I am thinking of another flick ?

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Honu-
I believe that is from “minority report”.

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Orwell was so right it’s beyond scary.

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Indeed. Each one of us carries a “telescreen” with us day in and day out.

I wanna know where we are going- we as a nation and as individuals; with all of this legislation/technology BS.

I feel like I am living in a science fiction/dystopian nightmare at times…

:mad:

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Minority Report

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I’d say Huxley more so. The but there is a hint of Orwellian in there, too.

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Senator Rand Paul said on the radio today that there are 34 armed federal agencies, including a SWAT team for the Department of Agriculture.

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That’s one reason I carry a 5 year old flip phone. I don’t need internet access every minute of the day. Hell, having the phone itself is a pain in the ass at times. I believe the capability for tracking from smart phones is beyond our comprehension & only going to get worse.

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You know the answer to that.

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To summarize:

In Huxley’s world, the people are controlled through the application of pleasure

In Orwell’s world, they are controlled through the application of pain

Both are concurrently happening today. Keep the majority drugged, entertained and happy. Keep the awoken minority sidelned, silent and fearful of retribution

By law, all phones since about 2004 must have an “emergency location” feature. Yours can be tracked.

Not only can they be tracked, but all phones can be dialed into without the owners’ consent or knowledge, and used as a one-way microphone. With a warrant, obviously.

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Even old outdated “Not so smart” phones can be dialed into?

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Sounds like its time to invest in ear muffs and Groucho glasses.

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And they can’t even get that right. If everyone had their own pole dancer I probably wouldn’t watch the news and get pissed off so much.

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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/07/mobile-data-transparency/all/

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Additionally there is also the slow and deliberate application of ignorance via media and the more and more frequent elimination of literature and filmography.
(EG: Blockbuster has already been tweaking movies for years now to meet certain time and/or content parameters)

Once all converted to digital and digital video, serious manipulation can begin as there will no longer be originals to reference.

Eventually classics like The Oddyssey will be condensed down to 15-20 pages of leetspeak and abbreviations, Gone With The Wind (movie version) turned into a 20 minute YouTube clip, and people will whine that they are both too long and boring because they go over thier media conditioned attention span by 10 minutes.

Super condensed Cliff’s notes will be looked upon as the ideal reading material.
(but only in those that also have audio versions because reding am r hard)

Add Bradbury to the list:
“Ooh, mommy look. Firemen. Mommy, there’s going to be a fire”
Fahrenheit 451