So I’m not the only one who sees the geopolitical strategy at play:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/2/nuclear-deal-will-make-war-with-iran-more-likely-f/
The best part is, the Iranians will be paying for it! Ha!
A pre-emptive strike with tactical nuclear weapons may be what is necessary to end Iran’s rouge nuclear program once and for all.
Pre emptive nuclear strike.
Wow.
Does no one understand the seriousness of that?
Yet a 2009 World Public Opinion poll found that 51 percent of Iranians hold a favorable opinion of Americans, a number consistent with other polls, meaning that Americans are more widely liked in Iran than anywhere else in the Middle East. The U.S. favorability rating isn’t even that high in U.S. allies India or Turkey, and is two and half times as high as in Egypt.
But let’s ignore facts. Jesus would nuke them.
Welcome to bizzaro world.
The problem, as I see it, is the leadership of Iran is very anti-American, not that the people are anti-American. Given their model of governance over there that is a problem. I have a cousin who was a long-time missionary in the region and still has children who live in the middle east. He says that overall, most people in the middle east don’t like the deal and that it is only going to spur on a nuclear arms race in the region. He also said that in Islam, they hold an ideal that it is okay to lie to your enemy. I see nothing in this deal that makes me think that it gives anyone any chance of stopping Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. It only gives them more money to do so, to develop and build more conventional weapons and to fight more proxy wars to further destabilize the region.
I just find it incredible how quickly people are to jump on whoever U.S. politicians say is the “bad guy” without any thought to future consequences or past grievances.
Iran’s beef with the US began when they supported the Shah during an insurrection by a decendant of the previous dynasty. After quelling the violence, the Shah declared himself a supreme leader and declared his authority absolute as opposed to being bound by the Constitution prior to the 1953 insurrection. This understandably infuriated the Iranians (How would we feel about China if the Chinese overthrew a Republican insurrection against Obama and then he declared himself absolute dictator?) and finally when things were calming down and the Shah relented control, the Shah became ill with cancer and we hand delivered him to the USA for treatment (because he’s our boy, after all) which further infuriated the Iranians and led to fears of a US Gov’t was going to put the Shah back in power. This made it easy for Khomeini to point the finger at the USA and resulted in the Embassy crisis.
It sure didn’t help when Iran was invaded by Iraq a year later, the USA openly supported Iraq, and a year after that Israelis bombed Iran in American jets with American made munitions. At what other time has the USA openly supported a preemptive invasion of another country??
It’s ****ing astonishing that even 51% of their population has a favorable view of us, and it’s certainly not unreasonable for their government to hate us.
The only thing about this entire scenario I’m unsure of is if the hate for Iran is more Saudi based or Israeli based.
WWJN…
I would explain US policy as “follow the money” as simply as anything else. War capitalism is my current working theory, though I am open to other ideas.
I do, having worked in a couple of nuclear power plants, I’ve got a pretty good grasp on what excessive radiation exposure can do to the human body… It’s not pretty. The last thing I want to see is nukes getting slung around. I happen to enjoy living, and would like to do so for awhile longer. It seems as if our gov’t is hell bent on getting another war started somewhere, if it isn’t with Iran, then it’s Syria, if not them, then it’s the Ukraine… Sooner or later they’re going to hit the jackpot and get something touched off, and we as a country will pay dearly for it. This has to stop.
The House of Saud will never allow the Persians to get the bomb. The US have been in bed with the Wahhabis for over half a century as we suckle oil from their tit.
From the article:
The Iran Strategy Council was commissioned by the Jewish Institute of National Security to educate Americans on the consequences of the Iran nuclear deal.
I personally believe Iran already has the bomb and once this deal goes through they will become the power in the region and there won’t be anything the U.S. can do to stop them.
I say screw it, hand out nukes to all the countries in the ME like Oprah hands out cars to her audience, cut off all trade and relations with them, and let those idiots do what they do to each other best. But I’m really jaded and fed up with humanity so I freely admit my idea probably isn’t the best solution…
Well any hope we had going in that we could stabilize the M.E. has been shot squarely in the foot.
I’m of the opinion that this started spinning out of control during the Carter Administration and anything we have done since then has just made it worse.
Do they have the bomb? More than likely. Will they use it? Again, more than likely.
I’m sure our mohammedan-in-chieftain is looking forward to nuking da’ BRUDDAS from another mudda… NOT.
Wow, I just now realized that the Nav was James Earl Jones!
Well Reagan did manage to form an alliance with a mostly secular oil producing nation even if it was run by a brutal dictator. Of course Bush (41) screwed that up completely.
Again - why? These are the smartest, toughest people in the country - it takes a steel mind and an even stronger will to become president. It takes almost as much brains to become a trusted advisor to someone who becomes president. Bush - Yale. Obama - Harvard. Compare your resume to theirs and tell me these people aren’t smart achievers? That said - again, why? Follow the money. JDAMs are making someone a lot of money. Carrier deployments, for instance, costs billions. Where does all that money go? Follow the money…
An endless stream of misinformation and routine threat inflation from the media, paid lobbyists and fatuous candidates trying to sound tough does its work over time.
Our own sense of empire and the idea that we are entitled to any action, any justification is far more dangerous than the Iranian nuclear program and it’s 3.5 percent enrichment. Half of our political class doesn’t even care if WE keep our own deals or not.
I dunno. Nuke anything seems like a horrible thing. I remember watching the Day After as a wee lad and it scared the hell outta me.
Iran’s problem is the government not their people. I’ve known a few Persians in my day and none of them were jerks. They were either hot as hell or looked like 70s era Ron Jeremy with a Blu Blocker fetish.
Before the Islamic Revolution, they were pretty much like anybody else. I harbor no ill will towards Israel but I’m not on the “they’re God’s people and do no wrong” bandwagon either. There are no angels in that part of the world.
They have vast resources, beautiful women, and archaeological treasures of high historical value. It’s a shame that they can’t secularize their governments and come up with better things to do than play Hatfields and McCoys.
Uhm, did they move the Osirak nuclear plant?
How do American jets flown by Israelis attacking Iraq fit into your narrative? Doesn’t this prove that we are Iran’s friend since we kept Iran’s foe from getting nuclear bomb, and that Israel is Iran’s guardian angel and we are it’s fairy God-mother?
I actually was alive at the time and I can tell you that anyone that would take a piece out of Iranians after the hostage crisis (ahem, not an ‘Embassy Crisis’) would get a non-alcoholic beer from me. I don’t think anyone thought that Saddam was Lafayette.