DOE pistol from H&R

Pretty cool new 9mm from H&R/PSA. No production date yet but for some reason I want one.
[video=youtube_share;rjgw2kJF_5Y]https://youtu.be/rjgw2kJF_5Y?si=0POXJWIPCUEISgpM[/video]

To each their own. Nothing I’ve seen from H&R at Shot is interesting to me. I was hoping for a retro AR-10, but them seem to have doubled down on the PCC stuff instead.

It just looks like a fun gun, wouldn’t supplant anything I currently have. Throw a binary trigger in it and really have a good time…. Might be a good road trip gun, though.

I sourced a DOE clone upper… on a pistol build until I get the receiver engraved.

Things different on the H&R… threaded barrel and dedicated lower. I like the original unthreaded barrel and a fitted adapter… latter because I like the option to use the gun in 5.56mm if needed. Especially if I stamp it, which I did.

I had a Maxim roller buffer in my suppressed 9mm AR, but did a crappy job with gas to face. Put the original buffer back in that one and the Maxim in the DOE build. Save some weight in a lighter package.

Also was a fan of the magazines. Glock magazines work and are what my duty gun uses… but the Uzi based magazines are good to go.

My biggest hope, they do the correct rear sight. I have an A1 on mine, but something “right” would be awesome.

Hopefully they will offer a SBR version. Always wanted a DOE ever since I saw the real thing back in the 80s.

Was looking at some of the info posted related to this gun on the other site… handguards will be made based off the original. That means two piece with heat shields.

Cannot wait for them to be released… that is an upgrade I want to do, just so I can clean under the handguards easier than having to remove the front sight assembly to pull a solid polymer forend.

Can you say where you saw them in the 80’s? I worked at 4 DOE facilities in the 80’s & 90’s and never saw one.

My dad shot with a lot of SOTs back then, one had one in his personal collection.

I’d like to have one of the “retro” uppers cached away. (this is so that I could handily drop it onto my Colt AR 6951 when no one is looking). Swap the buttstock for a pistol brace and no one would know the difference unless they checked the serial numbers on the Colt lower.

(But I would never do that). :wink:

The DEA used the Colt SMG at the academy at Quantico in 1994.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18978/Colt_SMG_jpg-3144429.JPG

That’s where I learned (A) the stick magazine is derived from the Uzi, and (B) if you use the magazine release button to drop a partial magazine, if it hits the deck vertically on the floorplate all cartridges will depart the magazine like the old kid’s game “52 pickup” with rounds everywhere.

I’m familiar with that one, not quite a DOE though.

And yeah, worst thing about that mag is they spill.

I think this crazy old dude has two DOE Colt SMGs mounted to his handlebars.[video=youtube_share;VS5jzKQP94Q]https://youtu.be/VS5jzKQP94Q?si=8wFuytnz8rur3ChC[/video]

I would be more interested if H&R would bring back their series of single shots…the Handy Rifle.

Dude… start a different thread. This is on the DOE

Interesting, DOE souring LPVO’s from Primary Arms.

Almost a year later and I cannot find where H&R has started production on the DOE. Anyone got any info on it?

The 635 has been out for a while. I am looking for the DOE with the 7.5” barrel and round hand guard.

ETA: looks like PSA just added it to their website but is currently out of stock. I swear I checked a few days ago and it wasn’t there,

https://palmettostatearmory.com/h-r-retro-doe-7-5-9mm-complete-pistol.html

As a generic rule, do we consider HR to be above the typical PSA low QC components, or is that just wishful thinking on my part?

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My experience is that it is wishful thinking, but on the flip side, maybe they intentionally screwed up my XM16E1 to help make it a very authentic repro?