MERCER, Pa. — A man’s handgun went off while he was holding it as he got into his truck in the parking lot of a western Pennsylvania gun store Saturday, and the shot killed his 7-year-old son, authorities said.
No he put his God damn finger on the f**king trigger!
The thing that pisses off the most about this isn’t the Fudd, isn’t his lack of weapon safety protocol, and isn’t how absurd this entire event is. The most frustrating part is the overwhelming sense of growing momentum courtesy of the media to push every gun-related death into the headlines recently. It’s clear they are trying to build enough momentum to force political action about guns, whether an AWB or worse. Having to go through this run up to it is truly insufferable and one of the most obnoxious experiences ever. And yet, here we are. And idiots like this certainly don’t help things.
I understand what you’re saying and agree with you on the media sensationalism of gun related stories. I did NOT post this as “Another, another, another kid killed by a stupid SOB” thread.
Even here on M4C, we can never stress enough the fundamentals when it comes to safe firearm handling. We all know this is a software issue and not a hardware issue.
Trying? Please, you can be assured, positively assured, that within a relatively short period of time, the illusion thats the 2nd, will be forever shit-canned!
Don’t balm yourself on the “its an industry & jobs thing,” Obama, and his marxist/leninist political party(yes, the dems are to a man/women, Moscow red)have no concerns about industry, jobs, or constitutional rights. They have clearly demonstrated, an uncanny ability to do whatever the hell they wish too, manufacture any result they please(corruption), with 99% of the population dutifully complying, while asking no questions as to the how, or why, it got done to them!
I have no difficulty weather-casting the immediate future, it includes a 70% chance, of a use it, or lose it forecast…As to the OP, yeah well he broke the rules, tragically, I think the instant loss of his son, supercedes any recriminations I have to offer…
What the hell do you think the media should do? Burry it? A man killed his own 7-year old son with poor training and negligence. That’s a legitimate news story, and I did not see either article push an anti-2nd Amendment agenda.
Now, I hope he gets to pay the price with a stiff prison sentence. Don’t give me that crap that his sorrow is enough punishment. With great rights come great responsibility. Screw it up and pay the piper.
I don’t! Thats absolutism, which is something that I am not! The man just lost his child, and here you are, wishing to hurt him even more. It was an accident, negligent yes, but an accident. He lost his little boy forever, I think he has paid well beyond your(our)ability to hurt him further. Penalizing this poor wretch further at this point is going to serve what lofty purpose, exactly?
It serves nothing to send him to prison. It’s just the knee jerk reaction we get now when a kid is negligently killed with a firearm. Had the father dropped a hammer on the kids head from the top of a ladder (just as stupid) would anyone be calling to see him sent to prison?
It is NOT an accident - it was a NEGLIGENT discharge. This has been and will be the standard of this forum whenever a gun goes boom in any unintended manner. The fact that he killed his son does not change the standard. Negligence carries legal ramifications in almost every field including our right to bear arms. For example, it’s an automatic Field Grade Article 15 for any negligent discharge at a clearing station at some FOBs in A-Stan that I’ve visited - even when nobody was hurt.
Now, there is another victim in this matter. That victim is the State of PA. The way I see it, that victim has a very good case for involuntary manslaughter.
Really hard to understand how this happened. The father carried an uncased handgun and rifle into a gun store to sell them? I bet that got the counter person’s attention.
Then he his putting the handgun into the center console and somehow has his finger on the trigger AND is pointing it at his son (presumably crosswise to the console)?! All the while assuming it is unloaded.
How is this numbnuts fit to drive a car let alone handle a firearm? If he had followed just ONE of the firearm safety rules this would not have ended tragically.
Would you feel different had the bullet that he negligently discharged killed your kid?
BTW, your analogy is a little strained. I’d say that the number of homes with ladders and children actually exceeds the number of homes with children and firearms. Yet, for some reason there are a lot more accidental deaths due to parents shooting their kids as opposed to dropping ladders on their heads. Now, I wonder why that is…humm…
It carries the legal ramifications its does, almost exclusively due to the totalitarian influences, and machinations of the marxist political party. Negligence aside, it was an accident, it serves no purpose whatsoever at this point other than the interests of the state, to inflict terror upon the public via the making of an example. Thats tyrranical, and extrordinarily cruel.
You talk as though this man is a perp, well he’s not, he’s a father who made a terrible mistake, and he very clearly has paid for it in the most horrifying of ways…Its no different then sending him to prison for backing over his child in the drive way, just as negligent, just as accidental…
Pending some compelling new issues, this poor man should be let be…
What’s missing is the part between his (if I’m reading this right) taking it into the store to sell it and coming back out with it, between which time apparently no one actually safety checked it?
For my Christmas wish I want to take all the “this is gonna get guns banned” and “this guy was not justified in shooting this attacker” and “this guy is a dickhead because of his gun/holster choice” and all the other shit that people regurgitate over and over on the internet and take all that effort and INSTEAD focus it on the four basic rules of gun safety so that EVERY Tom, Dickhead and Harry knows the rules and stands ready to jump all over anyone who “isn’t being safe” as fast as he would if he saw a AK sporter that possibly wasn’t 922r compliant.
There is simply NO REASON for anyone who lawfully owns a gun whether they be a hunter, target shooter, competitor or armed for personal defense to not KNOW and OBSERVE those four basic and simple rules.
If this guy had simply followed FOUR SIMPLE RULES he wouldn’t have unintentionally shot his own kid.
Is prison supposed to be were we hold those who are considered social deviants and/or dangerous for some reason in order to keep them out of society and from hurting themselves or others, or is it a place to implement “punishment” for a deviance?
First and foremost, a prison/jail/correctional facility is to keep someone who has committed a deviant act out the rest of society. It keeps them from hurting others or from repeating the deviant act.
This guy, who shot his son, is not a social deviant. He is not dangerous. He made a mistake, an accident, committed a negligent act. The result is he lost is seven year old son. What would taking him out of society and putting him in “time out” do for him? Absolutely nothing. It’s just pouring salt on a wound. He’s already going to suffer enough from grief, remorse, and and sorrow.
It wounds like they turned him away without looking at his guns.
Why do you expect people to learn rules when a sizable portion of the gun carrying public as represented on this thread want to remove the consequences of disobedience?
It’s really a very simple equation for human behavior: a) allow every moron with a pulse to own a weapon + b) never mandate any training for this weapon + c) absolution of sins that arise from a and b = tragedies such as this.
Perhaps it will make the next guy think about four simple rules.
What if it was a careless welfare parent who didn’t take the time to look and drove over their own child and killed it? What about stupid thoughtless Moms who leave babies in the car and they die while they are shopping?
Do you extend to them the same “only an accident” courtesy? Or are the actions “criminally negligent”?