Voter Apathy mostly has to do with the wrong guy running. The last 2 elections we got John McCain, Mitt Romney horrible candidates, although I think Romney could have actually fixed the economy. Plus they ran against a smooth taking first black president who told everyone the shit they want to hear and he bailed out Wall Street albeit with our taxes. The bigger problem is the people don’t have as much say as corporations and banks do, and they back up who they think is going to be for their best interest, that along with delegates can take your vote and vote for the other candidate. In Philadelphia I voted for Romney last time but they didn’t even count my vote. What we need is a unified base someone everyone can unite around, and stop all this infighting. The Republican Party is at war and divided. The guys like McConnell and Boehner don’t like guys like Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, who in my opinion are real game changers. The establishment guys don’t want them around. We need to get rid of these old hat guys and put more people of like mind, but that’s hard to figure out. I’ll give you.an example, My State has Senator Pat Toomey who I thought was decent until he sided with Shumer and Manchin to push another anti-gun law. So now what do I do ? Vote someone else who’s on the left to teach him a lesson ? or re elect him? Knowing he is going to cave next attack on the 2A? Thats an example of why there is voter apathy.
If one preferred Obama to Romney then all one had to do was not vote at all in order for Obama to win. But if one didn’t prefer Obama to Romney, then shame on them if they didn’t bother to vote for Romney because he wasn’t thier first choice.
That argument worked on me in 1996, 2008, and 2012. It will NOT work again. Choose carefully you Republican primary voters. I know I will. Better forget that utterly spineless, obscene notion of “electability” (did I mention how much I hate that word?).
For me, the national security laws that the GOP passed and still support are just as bad as anything Obama has done. Just a different flavor of oppression.
Voting does nothing. At best it is a waste of time and at worst it is granting your consent to the whole bullshit system. Additionally, no matter who you vote for, you are voting to control someone else’s life. You’ve just chosen different things to take control over than your political opponents.
People should turn instead to agorism and direct action to change society and it’s people at the core. No political means will ever achieve that.
I learned after 2008. What took you so long? ![]()
The death of the Republican party can be summarized as follows:
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Bible thumping voters (and I’m a religious man) Many Americans are Anti-FSA and very fiscally conservative. Very many. But you’re never going to get 20 year old girls or old divorced women to vote for you if you’re constantly making bullshit “Rape babies are God’s blessing” comments. Being anti-birth control and trying to put Jesus in every public building is not the way to win national elections. Maybe it works in your hick town, but not in any city with a population whose average education level is higher than 7th grade.
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War On Drugs idiots. The war on drugs is a failure. It’s not working and all it does is provide bigger budgets to bureaucrats and cops. What’s hilarious is listening to the “Banning guns doesn’t work!” crowd on the right claim that the exact same methods do work when applied to drugs.
I’ve only voted for one democrat in my life and that was our most recent election for Sheriff. He promised to make small drug offenses punishable by a summons and not fill up our county jail with petty drug criminals. He lost, how unfortunate. (FYI - I have never, ever touched an illegal substance and I would take a polygraph to prove that) -
RINO voters. Get it through your heads. Mitt Romney, John McCain, Chris Christie, Newt Gingrich, et al are not your friend. They wear American flag pins and say “God bless America”. But look at their track record. Only one guy on the ballot in 2012 signed an Assault Weapon’s Ban into law.
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Primary “electability” voters. You guys have been wrong for past 3 out of 5 Presidential elections. (arguably, 3 out of 4 since Bush in '04 was an incumbent) Stay home in '16. You know who was electable? Ron Paul. If he was on the ballot for a major party he would be elected - bet money. Crazy old man or not, people want him in office. And, to use your own logic, if he was the Republican nominee, wouldn’t he be the “lesser of two evils” just like Romney was? So he’s guaranteed every vote that Romney got plus more. Dumbasses.
No, there is no point in voting. There is no point in doing anything but complaining and making excuses on the internet.
Actually Eurodriver got it right.
If everyone voted their conscience in the primaries we’d have more palatable candidates to the base. Of course the base is just that----the BASE of your party. They are who you need to court and rally. You think the Dems were concerned with general popularity with Obama? Instead what happens is idiots go into the primaries fretting and biting their nails over if their preferred candidate will please the nation at large and then change their vote accordingly. That is NOT voting your conscience. “Electability” is not voting your conscience. “Pragmatic” or “realistic” is not voting your conscience; it’s a weak and spineless cop-out. Oh, and jumping on a bandwagon for some preceived groundswell of support or momentum is not voting your conscience either.
My suggestion is to have ALL primaries in one night and let the chips fall where they may. In 2008 I was going to vote for Thompson in the primaries, but by the time it got to his own home state of TN he had dropped out.
So, since the Republican Party’s primary voters have recently shown a propensity to not vote for who they REALLY want, I therefore reserve the right to not necessarily accept their choice as I reject outright the fetid concept of “electability”. Did it the last two presidential elections and refuse to do it again.
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