Any point to voting?

Actually, the experts are saying the shut-down will be meaningless by the next election, almost 13 months from now.

which experts might that be ? I heard the complete opposite

Based on word of mouth from 99% of the people who I unfortunately work with or happen to hear discuss the upcoming elections in Va the republican party and cuccinelli have zero chance.

He has lost all hope of getting the vote of these people due to social issues and birth control. I don’t agree with him on some of these issues but the alternative is so much worse in every other regard. I never thought I’d see Va as a blue state.

The majority of people in Northern Va value social issues, right to abortion, gay rights, and access to free birth control over all else.

Alot of these people also believe the answer to stopping crime is more gun control and regulations. If they had it their way they would turn Northern Va into NYC, DC, or any other big city along with the same politics. Most of the people in this area also feed off the government in some way shape or form whether they work for the .gov directly or they work for some .gov contractors.

I will still be voting this November 5th. There is no excuse for not standing up for what you believe in even against all odds.

One cannot fight against Santa Clause…

We’ve become the very thing our founders feared and and they very thing they did everything possible to prevent us from fvcking it up. And what did we as a collective manage to do? Fvck it up anyway…

The system they created was not designed to defend us from ourselves. They were only able to do what they did because they had the support of the people. The people, today, want something different. Small, limited government, no longer is what people want, and has been for almost a century. The last time we really had that type of president was in the 20’s with Coolidge. Since then every president has expanded government.

Like it or not the Constitution is done and those who don’t want the new way are gonna have to go along for the ride.

The Bolsheviks and their media machine will be there to remind everyone and make it an issue.

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I am not inculcated with the “new” culture. I cannot accept what an apparent majority of this country wants (note I won’t call them “fellow countrymen” as I don’t feel that kinship anymore).

I just can’t accept it. Sorry. :frowning:

I gave up on them long ago, pretty much hate them.

Does anyone have a list of senators (by party) up for re-election in 2014?

I seem to recall way more Democrats being up for re-election than Republicans.

What’s sad is not that long ago we were fighting communism, at the same time they were taking over our government slowly but surely ever since the 60s. I almost wish I wasn’t alive to see what this country is becoming. It literally is the worst time to be an American, Hell I don’t even know what that means anymore aside from being from this county. Look folks, it’s nice to say go out and vote, I probably will, but outside of it being an exercise of my rights it’s more an exercise in futility. It’s nice to ponder about a 3 rd party, and trying to talk to the otherside, or " let’s vote the bums out" but I just don’t see those as solutions anymore.

They’ve been lying in wait for this moment in time when they could have an actual Marxist at the top. Think about how easily the various government departments fell in line with this administrations rules of governing, that wasn’t a product of one election in 2008.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2014

Larry Sabato, Charlie Cook, Nate Silver, Sean Trende, Jay Cost.

Where you are hearing the complete opposite is from the media, not the poitical experts who do this for a living. Note I used the word expert.

Here, this guy works for Sabato:

“While the Republican brand is poor, the president isn’t particularly popular — his approval is only in the low to mid-40s, according to polling averages,” said Kondik. “There would have to be an incredible amount of revulsion with the Republicans to deliver the House to the Democrats.”

And the campaings will be reminding people how they stood strong against what will then be the year old fiasco that is Obamacare.

From the mainstream media maybe, and in the big cities no doubt, but in the suburbs and middle America, Obama is getting the blame. The people blaming the GOP for the shutdown were blaming the GOP for everything else beforehand anyway.

I really don’t see the GOP losing the House in 2014 although they may still not gain the Senate. The disaster of the Democrat supermajority just a few years ago is still fresh in a lot of people’s minds.

Silver is a statistician… Not a political expert.

He knows how to read the polls and is right far more than he is wrong. He is more of an expert than Brian Williams et all.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2013/10/11/nate-silver-political-fallout-overhyped/

Silver notes that in 1996, Republicans did just fine.

Nor was Clinton’s victory over Bob Dole in 1996 anything unexpected. Incumbent presidents generally win reelection even under marginal conditions (as Barack Obama did last year) — and they’re overwhelming favorites during peacetime elections when the economy is robust, as it was during 1996. Furthermore, Clinton did not have much in the way of coattails: Democrats gained just two seats in the House that November, and wouldn’t win back the chamber for another decade.

And they’re likely to hold power in 2014 too.

In 2014, likewise, it will require not just a pretty good year for Democrats, but a wave election for them to regain the House. But wave elections in favor of the party that controls the White House are essentially unprecedented in midterm years. Instead, the president’s party has almost always lost seats in the House — or at best gained a handful.

This shutdown is “just one issue,” Silver notes. Given the range of things that inform people’s votes, how much is this going to matter in 12 months?

Thanks

Among the seats up for election in 2014, currently, there are 21 held by Democrats and 14 held by Republicans with the seat in New Jersey pending a special election without the incumbent running.

13 months from now this will be ancient history. 10 months ago we had the biggest 2nd amendment fight since the AWB and hardly anyone in the middle thinks it’s a big deal now.

This current deal only lasts until January. Even that fight will be forgotten by the next election.

Once the reality of Obama care sets in, the Democrats are really going to be in trouble in some areas of the country. I know for a fact, in my locality, Democrats are pissed about the cost they are going to have to pay.

There has been too much voter apathy for many years, decades in fact. Each election creates more apathy on the losing side, and that’s what got potus into office in the last two elections. Think that your vote doesn’t count and sit home, only to wake up to some MoFo on the other side who only won by the thinnest of margins, is inexcusable. Which creates more apathy. Every vote counts, especially in 14 & 16, or we will be a communist country within the term of the next liberal potus. If we don’t hold on to the House, take back the senate, and the WH, we’re going to be soooooo phoqued, that we will never be able to recover, short of a full on revolution.