Just curious if any dealers of this forum boycotting sales to states who pass AWB & magazine restriction?
Why? And is it retroactive? Does this apply to places like Maryland that have laws in place that infringe on the rights of citizens? Just curious.
- California
- Hawaii
- New York
- New Jersey
- Washington State
- Illinois
and on and on…where does the line get drawn?
The line in the sand needs to be drawn NOW, their goal is to ban all weapons. If we don’t unite as shootis, hunters and yes businesses we all will be like CO who thought never here. Well HERE is now!
Edit: forgot to add NY & MD currently have bills that would require gun owners to have liability insurance, another method of pricing many out of the market. Their quote: they will suffer “immediate revocation of such owner’s registration, license and any other privilege to own” a firearm. :
Hawaii, just fyi, has California-like restrictions on pistols including banning 11+ rd pistol mags, making concealed carry permits impossible to get, and no open carry. In practice, it’s even more difficult to buy a pistol in Hawaii than in California due to the licensing process.
Hawaii bans NFA items, but does not ban high capacity rifle/shotgun mags.
Hawaii does not currently have an AWB.
You guys need a border fence with California or you’ll end up on the list soon enough due to CA immigrant voters.
I thought about posting a thread like this yesterday but passed because I felt like it would be…uncomfortable. Maybe a bit too much.
But, as much as I hate to say it, the OP did the right thing and bottom line is that actions need to be taken. They, as a collective, have the power.
The only way around them is to buy foreign for our domestic needs. I see a yield before that course of action.
Boycotting the consumer in those states or just LE?
C4
I support 100% no sales to LE/GOV agencies in those states, and oppose equally no sales to civvies.
Somehow we’ve got to make the asses pay for this tyranny.
I can’t see any benefit to restricting the citizens, as that will create no leverage whatsoever. Those who want them are already affected anyway and many are likely already speaking out somewhere. For them it’s a useless double whammy and it gives less financial incentive for manufacturers to participate.
Not really wanting to get into such a delicate subject, but I’d assume that citizens would already be restricted from purchasing certain items, and the question applies to LE & Gov’t sales on a LEO exemption.
The Olympic Arms thread has devolved into a pissing contest unfortunately. If places like NYS restrict their citizens to 7 round magazines, I’d like to see all manufacturers and vendors delivering only 7 round magazines to LE/Gov’t as well. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander and all that. 
I wasn’t certain as to whom I should be boycotting so I wanted to make sure.
C4
I live in CA, and I would be all for a company to boycott selling to GOV/LE in this state. But if the OP meant a complete boycott, I fail to see how restricting sales to me, a minority in this state as a 2nd amendment supporter, would draw any sort of line in the sand. That wouldn’t succeed at anything, except saying that we who are already fighting an uphill battle in this state, are on our own.
Boycotting sales to civilians in ban states gives the gun grabbers exactly what they want. The CA DOJ & all the other alphabet agencies want you, as an out of state dealer/seller, to be afraid to send anything here. When you post “NO SALES TO CALIFORNIA” on your website or Gunbroker listing, the anti’s have little orgasms. Even for items that have no regulation like AR uppers & such.
If you really want to make a statement, ban sales to LEO in ban states like Oly, Larue, Midway, etc… The citizens have been beaten enough. Give the higher-ups a taste of their own medicine. They won’t like it.
“You guys need a border fence with California or you’ll end up on the list soon enough due to CA immigrant voters.” This doesn’t help the situation any. I know it’s the trendy attitude to have nowdays with the current political climate, & I won’t argue that we have our share of fruits & freaks here, but they are everywhere. And they all didn’t come from CA. So being that an electric fence around CA will never be a reality, how about doing something to preserve the 2A? Put your money where your mouth is. Make a donation to a 2A org. Or take a few minutes to email politicians in ban states. Talking shit is for school kids.
First they came for California, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Californian.
Then they came for New York, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a New Yorker.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to speak for me.
I assume this is tongue in cheek? 
No, not really.
C4
Yes it is a delicate issue and I thought for days about posting.
I am glad six or seven companies have stated they will no longer do business with state agencies if an AWB or magazine capacity is passed. It is a start, but hopefully it will mushroom into a full blown action. Just note the thread on Olympic Arms, 358 post and 8,614 hits, for sure many members are supporting their stand.
The days of it will never happen HERE, well HERE is NOW!
I’ve have had a hard time finding a place that will even ship to CA. G&R Tactical is one of the only places that will put the Holy Bullet-Button on a lower.
I support the not selling of evil Assault weapons to police. Citizens do not have them, therefore, we are safe here in the People’s Republic. Thus, the cops should not need them, right? :rolleyes:
I have never been one for boycotts but is there any way to find out the financial holdings of individual politicians? I know they are immune to insider trading so I assume their investments are obtainable.
what if individual politicians were singled out and the public boycotted the companies they invest in.
Something to turn large and/or powerful groups against them. that would hurt them, the companies and the investment houses.
Probably wouldn’t work but it’s worth a thought I suppose.
Boycotting sounds good but it need to be effective and restricting the citizens is not going to work. State and federal agencies would have to be the ones targeted. It now makes a little more sense to me why Larue chose to push the state LE option.
Grant, out of curiosity how much business do you do with LEAs in ban states?
Here’s why I ask; The proposal asks for small business people who I doubt have a lot of interaction with government agencies to boycott them. In order to be effective, we need Glock, Sig, Smith and Wesson, Colt, BCM, Daniel Defense, KAC, HK etc to participate in a ban. Not just to stop providing those agencies with guns, but also parts. Then you ask distributors or small businesses like G&R to do the same once the it starts to trickle down.
Now is this feasible? We already know that HK doesn’t give care about private citizens. They’re business model has always been large government contracts. So they will probably not participate. I don’t know the percentages of business with LEAs vs private citizens is for those other companies. My guess would be their reaction would be based on that. Can a company like G&R afford to do this? They still have families to feed and employees they’re responsible for. But in order to be effective, it has to happen industry wide and those companies that do a great deal of government business have to be pressured from inside the industry. Otherwise it’s largely symbolic and while I appreciate the companies doing it, I’m not sure how much pressure it applies until the above mentioned join in.
Understand I’m saying a boycott of government agencies only, not citizens in those states because as stated earlier restricting citizens is what anti 2As want.
Also how far do you take this? Do you endanger the life of individual LEOs/investigators that really have nothing to do with the political bullshit and are just trying to do their jobs or…? And counting on the state governments to give in before this happens is an interesting gamble. If there’s a federal ban, does a company like Larue or Colt also stop supplying weapons and parts to the military?
It’s not a simple thing. If the New York incident hasn’t taught us anything else, it has taught us that politicians love to grandstand. In fact, it seems more important to them than anything else. Colorado is in the midst of proving this by forcing Magpul to take their jobs elsewhere. It’s sad, but it seems to be true.