Another 12 o'clock light mount...

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I just saw this 12 o’clock light mount from Hahn Precision.

It appears to be a barrel mounted solution that goes in front of the gas block. It looks like it would make a good mount for a X300.

Do you guys think a light mount attached directly to the barrel like this one could overheat the X300 or cause other issues?

Quoted from Hahn Precision’s web site.

“Forward Light Mount - AFLMP0404
Attaches in on the barrel in front of the sight and allows the mounting of weapon lights from Insight / Streamlight / Surefire. Design self compensates for variations in barrel diameter. Extremely lightweight and clears bayonette. Docking areas on side allow for additional rails (Picatinny Low Profile - PLP0904) to be mounted if necessary.”

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Surefire has been selling barrel mounts and suppressor mounts for many years. I’d gather from that they don’t think there is going to be an overheating problem.

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Good point, I forgot about the barrel mounts they used with the Classic series.

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I think it might make a good location for a Scout light as well. I have mine mounted at the 12 o’clock position, but via a Daniel Defense rail that goes beyond the FSB.

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Stoney275,

What light and mount are you using? Do you have any pics of your setup?

Thanks!

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He is running a Scout.

C4

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Seems to me if you’re running a railed forearm (I don’t) you could sacrifice BUIS sight radius and do the same thing on your own.

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Dport,

I was thinking the same thing but depending on what light and mount you are using sometimes the light will be too high and when the BUIS is deployed the light will block the front sight.

The mount above is actually lower than the rail so you don’t have to worry about blocking the sight.

I guess I need get an X300 and see how it works. I’m also still waiting on the new redesigned SR07 switch…

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Good point.

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My reply to some other inquiry of the same nature:

An X200/300 sits below the sight line of your irons/red dot. You “notice” it from behind the rifle but if you run a fixed front sight it is not overly distracting. I’ve not noticed any glare issues with that positioning vs other positions. The following pics are not the ideal setup as the FF rail on this rifle is too long but I threw it on there to illustrate. (You could however move the light and FS rearward even on such a long rail to get better positioning) After trying a few different setups we had settled on a 9" or 10" rail with an LMT fixed sight behind the light. Some were running tape switches (which would help on a long rail like this one or for folks that use VFG’s), while others (who like driving the carbine from the front of the rail) can easily thumb the switch. We came up with this for a fairly specific set of circumstances but found that it worked pretty well anyplace this light (X200/300) would be appropriate and you didn’t need to do certain other things, like running a DBAL.

It would be nice if these lights had a disable switch.

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My back up iron sights are permanently deployed. I have a standard FSB. The Daniel Defense rail I have is the 12.0 FSP model. My sight radius is that of a standard M4 carbine.

I have a few pics of me using this setup in the GTA sniper match (Grant saw me using it at his stage). I suck at posting pics that have to be hosted, otherwise I’d post one or two.

I hate name droppers, but I’m going to commit that sin. Ken Hackathorn has seen me with this setup a number of times and he approved of it. With the light at the 12 o’clock position, you avoid the down side of having a light at either the 3 or 9 when it comes to performing CQB and negotiating a corner.

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Ken mentioned Stony’s setup at the recent LL class as a recommend way of doing business…

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I usually run this mount on my middy but it’s um… inop.

Lights jutting off the side of a rifle always bothered me. This mount turned out to be exactly what I needed.

Sights remain completely unobstructed with the light in place as shown in the 2nd picture.

The TLR-1 will be replaced by an X300 next week.

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Topcrest,

Thanks for the pics, that’s exactly what I’m looking at doing with a X300 and a SR switch.:wink:

Has there been any issues with it getting loose?

BTW, after taking a closer look at your pics it looks like I might neet to mount it further forward than you if I want to the XT back plate. It looks like with the mount directly in front of the FSB there won’t be enough room for the X300 with a XT backplate installed.

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After a couple thousand rounds on various setups, it has not shot loose.

I always blue locktite and torque everything to between 25 and 40 in-lb depending on what it is.

I’d imagine the mount would need to be slightly farther forward to accommodate the bulkier switch.

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The X300 was the setup invisioned when I did this one.

I despise Tape switches - but I’m working on something to make it more “buttony”

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Is that an OTAL on there? I tried that setup (with OTAL, didn’t try the DBAL) and the beam sorta hits the side of the x200/300 type lights mounted ahead. Didn’t shoot it though. May not be an issue for all.

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Stony, is there any advantage to the 12 o’clock mount over a 6 o’clock mount?

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Tag for ideas…

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Not Stony, but the advantage I’ve always heard about is you don’t have to expose as much of your torso or melon when shooting over/around cover. With the light at 6:00, you have to get the weapon out far enough for the light to clear the cover, and in so doing you expose more of yourself.