hey any body out there running the YHM gasblock flip sight with YHM carbine rail ? did you have to change the gas tube to midlenght to get it to work?:moil:
Why would you run a carbine rail on a mid-length gas system?
I’m not sure what you are asking…
I’d skip the YHM parts.
I installed a flip up gas block on a carbine for my brother.
After about 500 rounds, the pin that hinges the sight up walked halfway out.
If I had to have a flip up front sight, I would run a rail over a low profile gas block and run the sight on that rail.
I have a carbine style M4 and am thinking of switching quad rail and kinda like the flip front sight with a carbine style rail what I,m asking is can you use a carbine rail and remove the A2 style fsb. most people go with a small gas block with a middy rail i,m just trying to be a bit different instead of a"cookie cutter style AR
Why are you talking about a mid-length gas tube if you have a carbine length gas system?
Take your rifle to someone who can do this for you.
You seem inexperienced, and I’d hate to see you mess your rifle up.
YHM parts aren’t the greatest quality.
If you want a decent front sight, just get a Troy or other good folding sight.
Don’t make a decision based on looks over function.
Not trying to be rude but your original question nor that statement does not make any sense whatsoever. Kinda funny though in a Monty python kinda way…:no:
First off - please tell…what set up are you trying to alter?
Second:
The gasblock be it flip up or YHM or anything else has nothing to do with it being car or mid length. Nor is it entirely clear what you are trying to achieve.
Change a gastube because you want a YHM flip up gasblock with a midlength rail otherwise it’s a cookie cutter and how good is the YHM flip up? Wow…Nelly…!
Perhaps time to look for that orange button - read a bit, then start asking, maybe a bit more clear. And definitely don’t screw with your rig until you have a clue.
The reason people run rails that are longer than their gas system is that they want more “rail estate”. Most are shooting with their off hand as far forward as it will comfortably go. It helps with muzzle control and follow up shots.
-you have a carbine length gas system. The exposed tube is about 7 inches. If you replace the gas block with a low profile or flip up, the gas tube will still be the same length from the new gas block to the receiver. The only way you would change out your gas tube is if you bought a new barrel with a mid length gas system, or rifle length gas system. The gas comes out a little hole in the top of the barrel, and goes into the gas block, through the tube, and cycles the bolt/carrier.
As far as cookie cutter builds…Most here don’t buy and modify a rifle so it looks cool. How the rifle looks is mostly a result of what works, and what doesn’t work so well. They shoot enough to know what is working for the shooter, and what could be improved upon. Most of the time, if a certain part is popular here, it is NOT because it is pretty.
EMTS dude, your only options with a Carbine length gas are to cut down the FSB and put a longer rail over it, or replace it with a low-pro gas block same/same.
your questions about midlength are what’s got a bee in everyone’s bonnet. I suspect you’re asking about rail length but these are usually measured in inches with a 7" being suitable to carbine length gas block, 9" to middy, etc…
you cannot use a railed gas block with flip-up sight if it is covered by a rail. your options in this case are to use a FS, either folding or fixed mounted to the rail…
Ok sorry guys this aint no rookie here spend 4+ yrs in the US Army Rangers . yes I know the little hole in the barrel is the gas block hole, DUH! what I was asking is if anybody was running a yhm style flip front gasblock style sight with a carbine style quad rail. I was wondering if you did run that set up do you like it . yes I know that if I wanted to mount a longer gas tube you had to by a longer barrel to go mid length. so before you think you know all the answers and come off well like your the AR guru you might stop and think a little bit about the question first guys . :agree:
Please do not be a smart ass to people trying to assist you. The issue is your inability to communicate effectively while explaining your issue.
Just because you may have spent time in the “Rangers” doesn’t mean you understand how an AR is properly built or what it takes to get there. You could also help by posting a link or pic. If it is the particular model I am thinking off they are shit and I wouldn’t use them.
What kind of optic is on your rifle, EMTS? You may not really need a Folding front sight, in which case you should consider the benefits of your existing front sight block.
If you just want to avoid a cookie-cutter rifle… well, that’s what hello kitty stickers are for!
The issue is your inability to communicate effectively while explaining your issue.
Agreed.
so before you think you know all the answers and come off well like your the AR guru you might stop and think a little bit about the question first guys
Clear your malfunction. Usually when people are kind enough to spend time with me and teach me where I was in error, I would say thanks. Your pride got in the way dude.
just reading what you wrote dude… “hey any body out there running the YHM gasblock flip sight with YHM carbine rail ? did you have to change the gas tube to midlenght to get it to work?” so it seemed to me (and others) that you really didn’t have a clue what you were talking about, regardless of your 4+ years of US Army Rangers experience…
if you’re asking if you should remove the FSB and replace it with a folding sight gasblock, to me what you suggest seems stupid unless you have some specific need that you didn’t include somewhere along the way in this thread.
I have no answer for you other than to ask what are you trying to accomplish? some folks prefer a folding front sight if using a magnified optic and this would be the only situation I could envision that what you are doing makes sense.
however, all said and done, I still don’t like 7" rails on anything with a barrel longer than 10 or 11 inches. if you’re going to fiddle with the GB anyway, what I’d do is put a low-pro gas block or shave the FSP and put an extended rail (9-12") and use a rail mount front sight.
oh, and sorry for being all guruey and everything, I was just honestly trying to answer what I thought was an honest question…:rolleyes:
ok guys this is what I got an aimpoint ml2 on a m4 style with a milspec buffer and tube with a vltor Imod all i was asking is anybody running this style of set up yes i have done my homework on what I want to do . i,m sorry if this didnt make this clear. I though about shaving the FSB down and putting a DD rail with a flip up sight , I just dont want my AR to look like some one else,s dont blame me do ya for wanting to be different.
So what do yo want to do?
Install a YHM gas block?
Or shave down you existing front sight base and run a flip up sight on a rail?
Either way, you are stuck with a carbine length gas system.
Unless you want to blow you handguards off with every shot fire!:jester:
no I,m thinking of staying with the factory sight and just up grading the rail, was wondering if anybody ran that type of set up . If I decide to change the FSB either it will be a pri flip up style gasblock or rail mounted flips on a DD rail maybe midlength and or cover the gasblock with the middy
Did you want it free-floated or just a quad rail? What is your weapon for? More long range or short range? What are you going to mount to the rails? I am assuming flashlight, VFG?
I run the standard A2 gas blocks on most of my ARs. On my “go to” AR, I have fixed sights and my RD cowitnesses with them. Might be the way to go.
My newest AR is a lightweight middy with simple MOE handguards, I am just attaching rails where I need them. Its for classes, and short range, so i didn’t see the need for anything expensive. If I do upgrade later, it will be a TRX 13, for the reach.
looking at a free float for faster cool down yes theres a light on mine now a surefire6p forward vert hand grip doing to be my more like cqb style , maybe be even down the road a fluted barrel swap . i like the KISS you know keep it simple stupid . less moving parts the less to break . I,m from the “old school” when I carried my m16a1 we didnt have optics at all and were taught to shoot at night by looking down the barrel not through the sights. If I,m not going to use this for long range got plans for a savage 10p with a mildot scope different stock but thats down the road thanks for the help and sorry for the confusion
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Did M4C just get punked?