WOW: Rep. Bishop Introduces Bill To Gut “Sporting Purposes,” Prohibit Ammo Bans

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Someone pinch me…

The National Rifle Association today announced support for H.R. 2710, federal legislation aimed at limiting the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) from using executive overreach to undermine the Second Amendment. H.R. 2710 was introduced by United States Representative Rob Bishop (UT-1).

“This important legislation would prevent arbitrary ammunition bans like the one attempted earlier this year by the Obama Administration,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “With the support of America’s law-abiding gun owners, the NRA was able to beat back Obama’s attempt to ban ammunition used by millions of law-abiding Americans every day for target shooting, hunting, and self-defense. This legislation would fix the law to protect us from similar government overreach in the future.”

http://bearingarms.com/rep-bishop-introduces-bill-gut-sporting-purposes-prohibit-ammo-bans/

http://www.guns.com/2015/06/11/gop-lawmakers-move-to-limit-federal-gun-and-ammo-rule-changes/

This is pretty awesome legislation. And normally, I am for fewer laws than I am more.

http://cdn.bearingarms.com/uploads/2015/06/2710.pdf

(a) AMENDMENTS TO THE NATIONAL FIREARMS
6 ACT.—Section 5845(f) of the National Firearms Act is
7 amended—
8 (1) in paragraph (2), by striking ‘‘recognized as
9 particularly suitable for sporting purposes’’ and in-
10 serting ‘‘recognized as suitable for lawful purposes’’;
11 and
12 (2) by striking ‘‘use solely for sporting pur-
13 poses’’ and inserting ‘‘use for sporting purposes’’.
14 (b) AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 18, UNITED STATES
15 CODE.—Section 921(a)(4) of title 18, United States Code,
16 is amended—
17 (1) in subparagraph (B) of the 1st sentence, by
18 striking ‘‘particularly suitable for sporting’’ and in-
19 serting ‘‘suitable for lawful’’; and

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We need to get behind this!

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This is a good step in the right direction and Mr. Bishop needs all of our support.

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I am all for it, but does anyone have reason this has a snowballs chance in hell of making it?

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This is great!

Already emailed all my reps and sent the call out to everyone I know.

Start calling emailing and don’t let up. A few minutes a day from everyone of us and everyone we know who would get behind this might just make a difference.

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Who cares!
How much shit do the anti’s consistently fling at the wall until some sticks?
Might as well fling something back and let them play cleanup for a change… Even if it doesn’t pass it will be fun to watch them running around in a hand-wringing panic over it. :cool:

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Unreal.

Go go go!

Glad to see someone listening to a vast majority of the population for a change, and protecting the people instead of trying to be a nanny.

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Nice…“It’s gonna be a good day today Tater.”, In my best Ron White voice.

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Brady Law failed first 5 times it was introduced. Gun grabbers did not quit even though they knew Reaga/nBush would not sign it. Make legislators go on record for this, those that do not sign, take action next election.

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The language still sucks.

"‘recognized as suitable for lawful purposes’’ is still arbitrary enough for ATF to continue making “determinations.” They will simply decide Firearm A is “not recognized as suitable for lawful purposes.”

It’s a baby step, but the sporter clause needs to be completely stripped. It didn’t exist prior to 1968 and we don’t need it now.

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https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150610/representative-rob-bishop-introduces-bill-to-curb-batfe-abuse

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This x Infinity

I’m going to send an email out tomorrow with the appropriate links to my coworkers.

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Furthermore, what is preventing the States, from preempting NFA regulations, much like Colorado and the dope-smoking hippies out there?

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Looking at how many actual bills in a year become laws (congress.gov has a good pull down search system) I would say this doesn’t have much of a chance, but that doesn’t mean i’m not going to put this particular bug in my Congressmen and Senators ears.

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Brick by brick, they tear it apart.

Brick by brick, we build it back.

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Below you can find the wording of the proposed bill. Below that, you will find a link to contact your Representative. Below that, you will find my letter addressing the issue, and expressing my concern. I did the heavy lifting, so get crackin’. We can’t complain about the erosion of our rights, if we do not make all legal efforts to protect them.

http://cdn.bearingarms.com/uploads/2015/06/2710.pdf

Ban on ammunition restrictions, and removal/redaction of the so-called “Sporting Clause”.

Go here to get your Rep’s e-mail address:

http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

The Honorable (full name)
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20515

Dear Representative (last name):

The Lawful Purpose and Self Defense Act, also known as H.R. 2710, has been introduced by United States Representative Rob Bishop of Utah. This bill is aimed at limiting the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) from using executive overreach in an attempt to undermine, and circumvent, the Second Amendment of the Constitution. This legislation would curtail arbitrary bans, similar to one attempted earlier this year by the current Executive Branch.

H.R. 2710, which is commonly referred to as the “Lawful Purpose and Self-Defense Act,” would:

Eliminate the BATFE’s authority to reclassify commonly used ammunition;

Provide for the lawful importation of any non-National Firearms Act regulated firearms or ammunition, that would otherwise be lawfully possessed and sold within the United States;

Protect shotguns, shotgun shells, and larger caliber rifles from arbitrary classification as “destructive devices,” which, under federal law, subjects them to onerous registration and taxation provisions and creates a ban on the possession of the firearm in some states;

Broaden the temporary interstate transfer provision to allow temporary transfers for all lawful purposes rather than the ambiguous current wording of “sporting purposes”;

Representative Bishop has shown tremendous leadership in protecting the Second Amendment rights of all Americans. Also, the State Attorney General of Georgia, Mr. Samuel S. Olens, was one of 23 other State Attorneys General, who urged the BATFE not to revive, or pursue, an arbitrary reclassification of ammunition.

Beyond the specifics of the bilI, I am concerned about the Executive Branch, as well as regulatory and enforcement agencies, circumventing Article I of the Constitution, by attempting to legislate by Fiat. I understand this bill to further prevent any intrusion into the issue of Constitutional circumvention, both for the rights of citizens, as well as the powers vested to the Senate and House of Representatives.

Thank you for your consideration of my viewpoint on this matter. I believe it is an important issue, and would like to see the legislation pass to ensure clarity in the law, as well as preventing Executive overreach.

Sincerely,
Outlander Systems,
123 Liberty Avenue
555-3799(FREE)
outlandersystems@m4carbine.net

Obviously, change the names to protect the innocent. As well, you can reference here to confirm your State AG was one of the 23 requesting the BATFE to stand down on a ban on M855:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/259177109/Letter-by-23-state-attorneys-general-urging-ATF-not-to-revisit-M855-ammo-ban#scribd

The Attorneys General were from the following states:

Alabama * Arizona * Arkansas * Florida * Georgia Idaho * Kansas * Kentucky * Louisiana * Michigan Mississippi * Montana * Nebraska * Nevada * North Dakota Ohio * Oklahoma * Pennsylvania * South Carolina South Dakota * Texas * Utah * Wyoming

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Comments like this are exactly why our rights continue eroding year by year. The anti’s don’t care if it will pass or what the odds are they get behind it 100% with all their emotion & hyperbole. Our side wants to sit on the sideline and debate if it has a chance to make it or not or deserves our effort that otherwise is fully focused on determining if a cause is worth it or not.

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Doesn’t go far enough IMO but it’s a good start.

How do you eat an elephant? One bite at the time…

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Exactly.

Who determines suitability?

By what process is an item deemed suitable… and how is it appealed?

Do all firearms default to “suitable” or “unsuitable?” Is the line arbitrary?

Something like:
A Remington 700 is obviously suitable.
Is a Masterpiece MAC-type obviously unsuitable?

Terrible wording.

It removes sporting purpose and replaces it with something else that is completely subjective.