Why a Retro?

You’re a rifleman. Frowned upon here sometimes… but be proud.

I’ve come to agree with the Iron Sight crowd. Even in low light, I prefer Irons to red dots. Not sure why.

Magnification is another story, but I like Irons.

It’s funny to think that all those dudes on TOS will bitch you out if you don’t have BUIS, but I’m willing to bet most of the BUIS in the picture threads aren’t even set to zero.

O-2 and your eyeball is the original 1X CQB sight.

Why retro?

For me, its for nostalgia.

For 3 out of my 4 years in the Marine Corps, I was issued an M16A1. The new M16A2’s were just starting to be issued my last year.

My first AR15 was an SP1. Handling one of these guns reminds me of my youth.

All of my work (LEO), home protection, self defense and training needs are handled by Colt 6920’s.

But sometimes you bring out a gun just for the fun of it.

Agreed fully. I have never been able to shoot an iron sighted military rifle like I can an M16A2. Ivans at 300 meters are child’s play with that thing.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people throw a rear flip up sight on and don’t zero it. I can’t say much I think the irons on my sbr need to be adjusted a click or two. Its pretty close though, didn’t have a spotted scope with me when I adjusted it. Just wanted to make sure it was pretty close.

On my 20 inch rifle they are pretty much gtg. Looking at finishing another gun with either an a2 upper or a c7 upper with 20 inch barrel. Something to be said about simple.

Because I had more time with the M16A1 than anything else . I never owned one , they were all issue. There are around 3 A2/M4 lowers , 2 A2 style uppers and 3 middy uppers at the Bear house .

So I’m putting an M16A1 together now: Unissued Colt M16A1 parts kit and a NoDak Spud M16A1 reciever . There are a couple of companies that will engrave the pony , US property , faux pin , etc , markings.
The thing that frosts me is that ATFE harassed & intimidated the importer into chopping the original Colt barrel.
Totally lawless vandalism. Just makes the kit that much more costly & that much less real.
The once a " Machine Gun Rule " is total BS , as well . That’s a story that can wait till anorther time.

Here is what the Law says, it’s not being made up by the ATF.

18USC925(d)(3)
“it shall be unlawful to import any frame, receiver, or barrel of such firearm which would be prohibited if assembled”

http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/TEXTgate.cgi?WAISdocID=Ojp114/0/1/0&WAISaction=retrieve

Not arguing just puzzled on several different levels.
I was under the impression that returning US made barrels , frames ( semi only ) etc were considered to be different than foriegn made parts. So I take it that if the US made barrel was originally built for a select fire M16A1 ( illegal ) then it must be chopped.

Seems like another restriction that has nothing to do with public safety or crime prevention . The ATFE Reform Act of 2011 will kill the barrel ban when it Congress finally votes it in.

It is imported unless.

(4) was previously taken out of the United States or a
possession by the person who is bringing in the firearm or
ammunition.

I would also like to see the non sporting use import restrictions changed.

Thanks for clarifying that.
I think that the non-sporting use concept is doomed , but it may take years , multiple court cases , and lots of lawyers , votes & money to make it stick.

+1
SO well put.

I clicked on the link but it was dead.

Is this a new law since '94? I ask because in '93/'94 I bought a M14 parts kit that was imported from Israel. It had a beautiful Winchester bbls marked March/1968.

Last year I sent off the proper parts and had an XM-177 upper built, with a lt wt barrel and the proper faux Moderator installed.

It came home and I mounted the upper on a spare Spikes lower to test fire it. It hasn’t been off that lower yet, and it gets almost as much trigger time as any of the oothers in the stable.

Everyone that shoots it likes the light weight, balance and most are surprised how accurate it is…DESPITE those old iron sights, way up there on the carry handle. LOL.

Less IS more at times.

I still need to find or put together the proper appearing lower, as well as find one of the old collapsible stocks.

Built this one to duplicate the XM’s I saw when I was in the USAF way back in the late 1960’s. So a nostalgia thing for me.

FN in MT

FN

Photos please!

On the left is an old Colt Sporter in 7.62x39. The XM clone UPPER is on the right. I ended up sticking a Mag-Pul handguard and a light on it. My new “house gun”.

The .540" lt barrel was cut and a very nice faux moderator installed and pinned by one of the guys over on the AR retro forums; HeatnBeat.

I still need a proper era handguard. WHY I stuck the Mag Pul on…simply to try it.

I really should get the proper lower from NoDak Spud. Then get some faux USAF XM engravings, as well as the “Property of US Govt” engraving, from Ident Markings, get it refinished and finish this project UP.

Need a proper butt stock. DID find a coouple of proper era OD nylon slings , as well as pistol grip. And a few old 20 round GI mags too.

FN in MT

Looks good. I use the MOE handguards on my guns too.

Sorry for the lousy, long distance digital, but I had it in the HD already.

I have an old LE buddy who occasionally gifts me with “over stocks” from his Agency. Few yrs back it was Mag Pul stuff. Hence everything wearing MP hand guards. I DO like them as well. and the cheap little add on kit to be able to mount the VLTOR light holder…works perfectly.

I’ve got so many other irons in the fire…I need to get off my ass and get that AR project done.

FN in MT

I have an FN A2 upper and bbl ready to go but need to find my upper block so I can put them together. I checked Brownells and they’re out of stock.first ding all of the parts was half the fun. Its going to wear an old set of A2 handguards.

I agree and they are still a simple and light weight system. I have an “A1” like I carried in basic.