Who else are the conservatives going to vote for?

I first came across Charley Reese when I went to Nuclear Power School in Orlando back in 1976. He wrote for the Orlando Sentinel and gave the liberals, both Democrat and Republican, fits. He still does:

No Conservative Party
by Charley Reese

The Republican Party is not now, never was and never will be a conservative party. It is what it has always been – a representative of the rich and of big business.

It might have become a conservative party in 1964, when Barry Goldwater was nominated as the presidential candidate. The Rockefeller wing of the party, to which the Bush family has always been a part, conducted the most vicious character assassination campaign against Goldwater in modern political history. The liberal Rockefellerites preferred a crook from Texas to a conservative.

The Rockefeller wing never lost control of the party again, co-opting Nixon, Ford and even Ronald Reagan, who was forced to take George Bush as his vice president. The Bush people, within two years, ran off nearly all of the original Reagan supporters.

There was a famous quote by James Baker, the first Bush’s hatchet man. He was quoted as saying: “Who else are the conservatives going to vote for?”

Well, Mr. Baker discovered that the conservatives had three choices in 1992. They could stay at home, they could vote for Ross Perot, or they could vote for Bill Clinton. I hope he thought of that while he watched Clinton’s inauguration.

The hard truth is that if you are a genuine political conservative, you don’t have a party. The Democrats are practically socialists; the Republicans are closer to corporate fascists. Neither one offers conservatives anything but rhetoric.

But let’s define our terms, because it is my belief that not many Americans today are really conservative. Political conservatism has nothing to do with such social issues as abortion or gay marriage. Those are moral and philosophical issues that properly belong to the state legislatures.

A true conservative recognizes that the Constitution is a binding contract that should be interpreted literally and in the context of the time at which it was written and ratified. A Constitution that means anything a judge says it means means nothing. Abraham Lincoln and his Republican Party were the first to violate it in a blatant manner. One of Lincoln’s cronies referred to it as “a worthless piece of parchment.”

A true conservative is fiscally responsible. Laying debt and interest payments on posterity is neither conservative nor liberal. It is just obscenely irresponsible.

A true conservative believes in noninterference in the affairs of other countries. Regime change is a policy favored by fascists or communists, but it has nothing to do with American conservatism. Americans have the right to govern only one country – their own. Americans have an obligation to defend only one country – their own.

A true conservative believes in a free economy and that beyond protecting the public from force and fraud, the government should not interfere in private affairs.

There are a lot of other things that define a genuine conservative, but suffice it to say that the Republican Party, with its imperialistic foreign policy, its disdain for the Constitution and the rule of law, its fiscal irresponsibility and its erosion of personal liberty, is not by any stretch of the imagination a conservative party.

It wouldn’t be a bad idea for people to sit down with a pencil and paper and list what they actually believe. Clarifying their own political philosophy might make them less susceptible to the demagoguery and political propaganda that characterize our present age.

When the Founding Fathers laid the burden of self-government on us, they didn’t do any favors for the ignorant and lazy-minded. Tom Jefferson observed that those who expect to be ignorant and free expect what never was and never will be.

October 28, 2006

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese314.html

thats an excellent article…

ive never thought that I was a conservative…although I believe strongly in the application of the Constitution, I believe it is a living, breathing document whose principles must be applied throughout history…

a true conservative, for example, doesnt believe in a right to privacy because it is not explicit in the Constitution or any of its amendments…

someone like me believes that a right to privacy lives and breathes in 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 14th amendments and more…and that the existence of Marbury v. Madison gives Article III courts the power to define this…

“It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is”

this statement (which is inscribed when you walk into the Supreme Court, and is straight from Marshall’s opinion in Marbury) technically makes me liberal…at least in how i believe the Constitution should be interpreted…

unfortunately the terms “liberal” and “conservative” mean nothing of what they once did…

While neither major political party is perfect, working outside them is generally a prescription for ineffectiveness.

I am presuming that everyone who would register on this site (M4Carbine) knows where there bread is buttered and will be vigorously doing their part to ensure that Mrs Pelosi is not the next Speaker of the House.

Tim

The reason the Republican party isn’t “conservative” is because one issue voters largely don’t get involved in the PRIMARIES where you pick who is going to run.

They also don’t get involved in their local Rep. organization where you can shape the PLATFORM of the national party.

Grass roots anyone?

No, it’s too easy to sit and bitch on Nov. 7th and say you don’t like the candidates, when you could’ve done something about it the other 364 days before.

Laziness breeds malaise, and I’m tired of the hang-wringing.

Get involved or STFU.

Ideologically thought provoking article, but James Baker was right.
Who else is there to vote for?

It is a pretty easy choice when looking at Nancy Pelosi vs. Denny Hastert right now. Or in 2008, Hillary vs. McCain. I may not be a fan of many of the things the Republican Party has done, but I will not cut off my nose to spite my face. Do not let “the good” be the enemy of “the perfect”.

Some say, “Let’s teach the GOP a lesson. Let them get voted out this time around, so the next time they assume congressional power, they will act, lead, vote to the right of center.”
My response would be; “It took the GOP about 40 years to gain congressional power, are you ready to give it up and hope it won’t take another 40. Also, whenever the left is in power they help to set the agenda and influence the populous, and invariably that pulls ‘the center’ farther to the left.”

The whole dove and hawk thing, I never understood how that was directly related to conservative and liberal. I firmly believe the dems are more dovish than usual, just to throw stones at the administration. They have been vested in the failure of the WOT since it began. They are crossing the line between dissenting and treasonous.

This is a good piece by a local talk radio guy in Denver, why party trumps person:

http://ww2.scripps.com/cgi-bin/archives/denver.pl?DBLIST=rm02&DOCNUM=29953

I understand many folks think a mulit-party system is best, but take a look at the parliamentary governments around the globe. They never get a majority and form a coalition AFTER the election and it may or may not be what the voter had in mind.

We here in the US form our coalition BEFORE the election. You know what you’re getting when you vote for a candidate. Once you read the linked piece above you’ll understand why it’s so important.

Which is more fair to the voter, forming a coalition before or after the election?

Trick or Treat, Taxpayer
by Gary North

It’s October 31 again: the day loved by people who like to dress up in silly costumes and wear masks.

All over America this evening, children will be ringing doorbells, offering adults a choice: trick or treat.

Then, a week later, millions of Americans will go to the polls. This scheduling is fitting and proper. The choice is basically the same: trick or treat.

Voters will get their choice of electing people with masks. Not physical masks, of course. Rhetorical masks.

Voters will decide which disguised door-knockers will knock on their doors for the next two years. Rival politicians promise specific groups of voters a large share of any treats collected.

Everyone will have to put treats into bags, of course. The program is called “No door left unknocked.” The larger the house, the higher the percentage of treats demanded. This is called “treating your fair share.”

There are two issues to be settled officially next week. The first issue is whether your preferred would-be representative masked agent will share the lion’s share of the treats with you, or whether the other would-be representative will share the treats with his supporters.

The second issue is the size of the bags. One representative promises smaller bags. He is dressed in a red costume. The other representative promises even larger bags, but only for the largest homes. He is dressed in a blue costume.

We can be sure of one thing: No matter who wins, the bags will be larger next year. They always are. Bad news.

There will be more bad news, beginning next January, after the holiday season has ended. As soon as the person in either colored costume journeys to the headquarters of the Society of Masked Agents to distribute the treats he has collected, he will send out a message to his supporters. It will say something like this:

[i]"The supply of treats this year is up, indicating a strengthening economy, but your share of the distribution has been reduced. In previous years, we ran low on treats, so we handed out IOUs to people, promising additional treats in the future. The future is now. We have to honor our earlier IOUs.

But there is very good news. Enclosed are IOUs – your legitimate share of future treats. Just as the Society of Masked Agents has always fulfilled its obligations with respect to past IOUs, so we guarantee that we will deliver on this year’s IOUs. Trust us."[/i]

You may recall that you were sent this same message a year ago. And the year before that. You remember, don’t you? I remember mine. It had a tiny notice at the end: Bank of China. Odd, I thought at the time.

Soon, the nation will get ready for Thanksgiving. Its timing is always appropriate: the election results are always in by then. Some people will give thanks because of the success of their masked agents. Others will give thanks for the treats to come, however reduced.

Then millions of thoroughly plucked turkeys will be consumed as a meaningful symbol of America’s heritage of democracy.

Let the holiday season begin!

October 31, 2006

Huey Long said that the only difference between Democrats and Republicans is that one skins a man from the top down and the other skins a man from the bottom up.

It’s sad that it seems like it’s become generally a situation where we only have a choice to vote for the lesser to two evils. I’ve always been a conservative first…Republican second. I wish there as a viable option of party affiliation that was more in line with the ideals of conservatism…as the Republican party, on the national level to a large extent and on the state level to a lesser extent has not been true to those ideals.