The NRA, members here, whoever. All content to point fingers and bark “Why don’t you move?”.
The epitome of short-sightedness and a major collective weakness among the group. The waters are rising and soon there will be no more dry land left, but as long as it doesn’t happen in your lifetime…
The advocates that remain here and fight for the 2A here deserve better than mass ridicule. And I don’t mean me.
Not 100% sure what you are getting at? Are you talking about the comments people make about moving out of shit commie states?
If so, I hate to say it but some states are a lost cause. There is just no way around it. The few real patriots in those states are to few.
The dry land will be the states that have the numbers, and place politicians in state and federal offices that support the 2nd amendment, and freedom in general.
How about you provide a little context?
Yep… When you are out numbered with no possible chance of winning there is nothing you can do.
You -should- move. United we stand. Strengthen our other states, and work on the one’s that aren’t such a lost cause. Eventually we push back into NJ/NY/Chicago/California/so on.
I wouldn’t ridicule someone pro-Constitution living in an anti-Constitution state any more than I would the soldiers of the Imperial Japanese Army fighting in the Philippines… who surrendered in the 1960s.
New York, New Jersey, California, et al. are a lost cause. Trying to stay and fight there means that the libtards moving into states like Colorado will continue to push the pro-Constitution states toward the anti-Constitution camp.
At some point, you’re going to realize that the Philippines are lost and by the time you do, the whole war might be over. For decades.
I did move. The state I was living in wasn’t nearly as bad as NJ, NY, CA, CT, etc. but it wasn’t an NFA state and I was correct that it wasn’t going to become a NFA state so I moved.
If I stayed and did everything I could to fight for my rights I’d not own one single NFA item and that isn’t how I choose to live. I’d have stayed and fought IF I had any actual popular support. But it didn’t exist.
Sadly that means if you want to enjoy owning NFA items, want to carry concealed or have no restrictions on semi autos and magazine capacities you need to move to a second amendment stronghold state.
Most of us are willing to fight, but we’ve seen what happens if you try and fight alone.
If you want to stay in your state I understand. There are many reasons to do so. If you want to try and fight to make it better, great I think you should. But I don’t think there are enough people like you in your state to accomplish anything meaningful.
Keep pointing the finger, meantime remember that Japan fell after the above stated campaign. Unless I missed the obvious that was a bad comparison.
Think of the move as temporary…since we’re talking about the Philippines, color yourself a modern day MacArthur and one day, “you shall return.”
As serious as both your collection and venue are I can understand your need to be there. Probably like a surfer (no disrespect intended) needing to live in a coastal town, it’s just where you belong for the most practical and spiritually fulfilling of reasons.
For now I belong here and so be it, however one day after my son is out of school I do see myself shopping for an IWB and dare I say even a suppressor. If I still can’t do it here by then, it will be time to go.
Heck I might even take one of Larry’s classes since he won’t touch NJ. I’m sure he’d be delighted. 
The point was that you have lost the fight. The Allies have sacked the Philippines. They ignore you, moving onward to the homeland, while you steadfastly believe that you can somehow help stop them by stealing food from farmers in the mountains. Your desire to win (or more accurately, not lose) the Battle of New Jersey, a battle all but lost, might just be blinding you to the bigger picture in the War for America. A war that you might help win if you were to relocate yourself somewhere that your resistance may prove more effective.
To put it another way, what does it profit us to win one blue state at the cost of half-a-dozen red states? Losing New Jersey is irrelevant if we can hold the line across the rest of the country. If we can hold the line, then we can push back into New Jersey, re-take New York, liberate California. But we cannot do any of that if we have lost Colorado, Arizona, Utah, Florida, &c.
Every person must walk their own path to the best of their ability. It is accomplishment enough to know why you have chosen the path you are on and even more impressive to have an understanding of where it is going.
Okay. So there are 38 million people in CA. We vote roughly 45% red to 55% blue, in most elections. So you are proposing that 17.1 million people get up and leave this lost cause of a state and move to states that are firmly red?
I think it would be easier to simply have 3.8 million red state voters move IN to CA and tip the balance in our favor. Seriously. Come on over people. The weather is great here. Hardly any bugs. Cool summer nights. Mild winters. Which red state is easily winning by more than 3.8 million voters? Can you spare a few voters? If they would just pack up their things and move here we could turn things around in the very next election. DiFi would finally be out!
I like your idea of moving people around to sway the elections. This could work. How many millions would have to move into NJ to turn it around there, vs. the amount that you propose move out?
Maybe it’s time for a Communist North and a Free South California.
:sarcastic:
But on gun issues like NFA weapons, semi automatics and full capacity mags it doesn’t seem like the breakdown is 45/55. So as a result I’d NEVER consider moving to CA. And guns are just one of the many, many, many (really a lot of them) reasons I’d never consider living in CA and keep in mind the state is full of porn stars.
Times were different, I doubt a similar situation would happen in this environment but I could be wrong.
I get your point but again, Japan fell and it wasn’t because of a few die hard but clueless holdouts who didn’t head back to the mainland in time. Wouldn’t have made a bit of difference in the end and that I believe is what we better start figuring out as a whole.
As far as me helping out in other states, that sounds like an acknowledgment that you may be next. And guess what? Somebody doesn’t stop the line from falling one by one you will be.
Excellent. Then we can lose in California and Colorado!
I seem to recall that you recently had an anti-gun Republican governor. So that either means that your GOP nominees need a lot of anti-gun Dems to vote for them or California Republicans are to the left of Montana Democrats. Or both. Knowing what I know about New England and Northeastern Republicans, it’s probably both.
In any case, it would take the whole of the NRA to move to California (assuming there are no or very few NRA members in CA). And even then, I doubt that 4.5-ish million people would be enough to shift the state, especially not if the Democrats are willing to play the GOP’s voter registration games against them.
Your libtards are perfectly willing to move to red states to sway the votes purple and blue, why aren’t your more conservative elements willing to help us fight back? All that it would take would be a couple hundred thousand here, a couple ten thousand there, a few thousand around back, &c. Maybe a million souls, all told.
My guess is that Colorado is next. Maybe Florida. But New Jersey and California are gone man.
I understand the nobility of staying and fighting…its the big picture, long term thing to do. But sometimes pragmatism is the order of the day, and you do what is best for you and yours now. You’re not giving up the fight, you’re changing venues. Also, part of our founding father’s vision of our republic was that each state governed itself, and people had the freedom to move to states that suited them best without giving up US citizenship.
I don’t think we mean to belittle people’s desires to stay and fight. We are just offering an option that we feel is strategically better suited to eventual victory. I am sorry if my comments of abandon ship came across as belittling. It was definitely NOT my intent.
Japan didn’t fall because we kept troops in the Phillipines and depleted resources holding onto one area. We withdrew, regrouped and found better ways to attack the Japs; eventually returning to the Phillipines and causing Japan to fall. The US found its line in the sand that it could hold and them expand from. The same needs to happen here. We need to find our line in the sand and then expand from there. Same as the libtards did against us.
As for the Blue vs. Red state anology; this has nothing to do with being a RepubliCON or DemoCRAP. It’s about whether you support the Constitution as a whole and are of a conservative bent vs the other side. There are libtard Republicans just as there are conservative Democrats.
If you took the state of CA and carved out a corridor from LA to the bay area, you would have the communist CA state. The rest of CA is ideologically freedom loving and tends to vote more towards the conservative end of the spectrum, but the rest of the state is hopelessly politically and economically enslaved to the commies in this corridor by lack of representation in Sacramento. If there was a way to jettison Alameda County to LA County on the coast, we would have another red state with what remains.
I would actually go further and just let the pinkos from SF to LA have their own country (Peoples’ Republic of Northern Aztlan), but without any rights to ask the IMF for a bailout in a year.