You may not have a choice. When we get what we’re asking for (Obama and a fillibuster proof congress), we’ll see all sorts of interesting things take place. I can foresee the suspension of civil liberties, martial law, and the suspension of elections in 2010 because of civil unrest brought on by extemely poor policy decisions and possible terror activity. Also, have you given any consideration at all to what kind of individual they will be looking for to fill the position of “Homeland Security Force”?
Europe ignored what was going on in Germany in the '30’s, to their detriment. I would suggest that we not ignore what’s happening here, unless we care to repeat history.
And yes, I believe Obama and those who pull his strings are just that dangerous.
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act was repealed by HR 4986 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008) which restored the Posse Comitatus Act back to its original 1878 wording.
I voted Republican across the board today, yet I find talk of Obama being compared to Hitler ludicrous. Let’s not allow blind paranoia be the rule of the day.
I don’t. A charismatic leader who rallies the people with what they want to hear, has legions of rabidly loyal followers, many of whom will be apt to use violence against his opponents, and whose goal is to turn the nation he leads into a left-wing socialist-authoritarian state? Sounds like Hitler in my book.
And those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it. Did Adolph Hitler start out killing millions of people? Or did he start out offering “hope” and “change” to the downtrodden people of Germany?
I agree that it can be too easy to throw the Hitler thing around but Hitler was a socialist and Obama is a socialist and they both were/are able to win over masses of people with their oratory and charisma.
So, by this logic, every day between Hitler’s birth and the day he had the first Jew rounded up for extermination, he was a good man all those days?
Every day between Hitler’s birth and the day he ordered the blitzkrieg to begin, he was a good man all those days?
You can’t say Obama (or any equally dangerous leftist leader, for that matter) isn’t going to be the next Hitler just because he hasn’t had political dissenters exterminated yet.
I’m not ignoring history, but to compare Obama to Hitler is. If you think that Obama=Hitler, than you are profoundly ignorant of history.
I understand the notion of “charismatic” leaders being a problem, but let’s keep the Nazi comparisons fresh if someone actually starts to employ them. Caesar, Napoleon, FDR, a lot of charismatic leaders have done substantial harm WITHOUT being a mass-murdering dictator.
Let’s keep things in perspective shall we?
So, by this logic, every day between Hitler’s birth and the day he had the first Jew rounded up for extermination, he was a good man all those days?
Every day between Hitler’s birth and the day he ordered the blitzkrieg to begin, he was a good man all those days?
You can’t say Obama (or any equally dangerous leftist leader, for that matter) isn’t going to be the next Hitler just because he hasn’t had political dissenters exterminated yet.
I voted against Obama, but the above logic is absurd. Not only does it cut both ways, not only are you putting words in my mouth, but you’re also setting up a straw man proposition. Try again.
Until Obama organizes the mass-murder of millions, any comparison to the world’s worst dictators is entirely (and especially historically) premature.
Black Panthers can bring all the Billy Clubs they want. Unlike Forrest, I won’t apoligize for breaking up a Black Panther party in my neighborhood
I think the more probable reason for hightened alert is the fact that this would be a great time for UBL and his buddies to light something off. Before the election might have helped McCain, after just says that nothing has changed.
BHO is a one termer Jimmy Carter Wanna Be. What promise, besides taxing the rich more, will he be able to deliver in the next four years. When the Rep. runs in '12 he will be able to say “Are you better off than you were four years ago?” and win.
The dems hailing of a new center-left US ring as hollow as the Reps promise of a permant majority as little as 8 years ago.
I certainly am not making light about the very real possibility of social disorder, but I remembered this and thought it was marginally amusing. Maybe this will lighten things up a bit?
Let us not forget, Adolf Hitler was democratically elected as the head of state in Germany. He did not over throw the government in some revolution or coup.
However, I must agree with Gunshot John on this one.
Recall the words of US Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Alex Kozinski:
The majority falls prey to the delusion–popular in some circles–that ordinary people are too careless and stupid to own guns, and we would be far better off leaving all weapons in the hands of professionals on the government payroll. But the simple truth–born of experience–is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people. Our own sorry history bears this out: Disarmament was the tool of choice for subjugating both slaves and free blacks in the South. In Florida, patrols searched blacks’ homes for weapons, confiscated those found and punished their owners without judicial process. In the North, by contrast, blacks exercised their right to bear arms to defend against racial mob violence. As Chief Justice Taney well appreciated, the institution of slavery required a class of people who lacked the means to resist. See Dred Scott v. Sandford, (1857) (finding black citizenship unthinkable because it would give blacks the right to “keep and carry arms wherever they went”. ) A revolt by Nat Turner and a few dozen other armed blacks could be put down without much difficulty; one by four million armed blacks would have meant big trouble.
All too many of the other great tragedies of history–Stalin’s atrocities, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Holocaust, to name but a few–were perpetrated by armed troops against unarmed populations. Many could well have been avoided or mitigated, had the perpetrators known their intended victims were equipped with a rifle and twenty bullets apiece, as the Militia Act required here. If a few hundred Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto could hold off the Wehrmacht for almost a month with only a handful of weapons, six million Jews armed with rifles could not so easily have been herded into cattle cars.
My excellent colleagues have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed–where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.
And Obama’s Secretary of the Treasury may be signing their paycheck in 2009.
With Obama looking to win it, I am concerned first and foremost about my right to bear arms. Weakness regarding terrorism/radical islam second, and socialist-oriented policies third. The economy was decent under Clinton, it should survive him and his likely similar policies.
Sorry, but I don’t envision him standing on a pulpit screaming wide-eyed at the top of his lungs (as Hitler did) that we need to take back what’s ours and impress our will on others around us through violence. Hitler was an ex-soldier bitter about WWI that later did time as a result of his radical views. Obama is far more soft spoken and demonstrably much less aggressive at his comparable stage of power.
If he suddenly advocated that we need to take Mexico and that their population was a danger to our survival, absolute and total shock would be an understatement of my reaction.
Here’s another thought - what self-respecting liberal would put down their latte and attempt to take up arms for Obama? Seriously… We’re looking at a part of society who only wants hand outs and nothing to do with work or anything close to physical exertion. The more I’ve thought about this, the less I really worry. They are seriously the last people I’d worry about.
On the other hand there are some extremely good and truly patriotic folks in the military, the law enforcement field, and the general population. I believe a lot of these types would not stand for those injustices.
I totally agree with your statement. Because this election is boiling down to race, you would be surprised in the amount of paranoia and anxiety that has built up in the past few weeks and months. It is hard to believe anyone would riot over this election, but you should always be prepared just in case.
Will Obama and the new congress and senate:
(1) coordinate lock step on new legislation,
(2) will Obama try to reign congress in, or
(3) will congress try to reign Obama in?
