Need some advice on iron sights and makers iam getting my first AR next weekend ,and i would like some advice from ppl that really know what there talking about in iron sights i know ill get it here
1# which brand name has the better quality on performance
2# important question which optic sight diamond or oval rear sight. ? I know its personal preferance but this is my first tactical rifle . i value your opinions
3# is micro iron sights that much differnt from the base model
1- I think most people here would recommend anything that Troy offers. Their sights are very high quality.
2- Im not too familiar with the diamond rear sight apature. Considering this is your first AR, I would be inclined to go with the standard peep sight and determine later if it is something that you would want to replace.
3- The Troy Micro sights are intended for use with rifles with a raised top rail, like the hk416, fn scar, and the vltor casv system. Im not sure how well they would work on an AR15, I imagine you would be straining your neck a lot to get a good sight picture.
Another type of micro sight is offered by Knights Armament. Those sights are more low profile than standard flip up iron sights but are also a standard height.
I don’t know who is making the Diamondhead sights now but originally they brought their “sight” to Troy and before Troy came out with their improved diamond type sight they had the diamondhead sight as part of their normal sight series. Troy now has their own similar.
I have a couple of the Troy Diamondhead ones before Troy came out with their own version.
If its your first AR then get the standard circular aperture. Its been gtg for a long time and what you should learn on and “Know” how to be be proficient with… then later if you are curious or have reason to… experiment with something new.
I will be trying out the diamond sights eventually as I have a reason to… when my eyes were good I LOVED iron sights and shot very accurately with them out past 400m, but now with bad eyes my rear aperture goes egg shaped on me and I can’t find the x axis of center which causes me to shoot vertical strings right down the center of the target, so I’m hoping with the diamond I will be more able to find the x axis of center having corners in the aperture… might not help at all.
With the circular aperture I will still hit minute-of-badguy, but now it could be anywhere from the crotch to the forehead:p
Stick with the circle until you have extra time/$ or need the diamond, IMHO
I have 3 AR’s all with different irons and used for different personal reason. 1) I have one AR setup similar to my duty weapon the M4 w/MATECH 600m. Just an ok sight and the only reason I have it is so I can train behind the weapon system I’d deploy with. 2) My other is the KAC 600m on my Noveske RECCE setup–I like this one the best. 3) And lastly is a Troy Tritium BUIS for lowlight/night use (home protection).
I had the Troy Di-Optic Aperture (DOA) (similar to the diamond) and didn’t like it and quickly sold it. While focusing on the FSP I found the diamond shape distracting and my eye preferred symmetrical and easy to center circle. YMMV, but personally wouldn’t recommend it.
I guess I’m too used to looking through the standard circular sight.
The micros are for rail systems taller than the standard M4.
I have two ARs with the standard A2 sights and one AR with the Troy folding front sight (center post and wings, not H&K style) and a Troy Diamondhead rear sight. For some reason I do not see much difference between sight pictures other than the Diamondhead feels a little quicker and my groups are a little tighter. It may be in my imagination but I have been pleased with the setup on my LWRC. Having said that, our department uses Mini14 GB rifles and almost any sight on a rifle is better than those.
I am going to put the iron sights on POF 415~16 223/556 Recon that has the raised rail correct ? . if so the troy micro is what iam looking for ? every bit of imfo on this matter is importiant and i really thank u all for ur help
I was an early buyer of Diamondhead and I really like them.
I am in my fifties and because of presbyopia sight pictures are fuzzy at the best of times. For example, I cannot index nose-to-charging handle; I completely lose the rear ring. I have to position my head further back on the stock and the sight is still fuzzy. But the Diamondhead has more reference points (i.e. the little arms) and I can shoot it much better than plain rings.
YMMV
Stay safe.
Can anyone comment on tritium in a rear sight. I have heard anecdotal stories of the tritium being too bright in low-light/no-light conditions. Has anyone experienced this? Can anyone refute this? Thanks.
NEVER buy a rear sight for an AR that has anything on it. All it’s there for is a reference point for positioning the Front sight post. You’re not supposed to look AT it, just THROUGH it. Adding tritium, white diamonds, or any other BS is asking for trouble when you try to focus on the front sight.
I tried Tritium sights on an AR. I don’t know about “anecdotal stories”, but the tritium on the rear sight is too bright, distracting, and prevents you from focusing on the front sight.
I got the sights about 3weeks ago iam putting them on my POF 415 556/223. This is my first ar and its diffently a learning experience. Iam going out and trying it out for my self.in a week. ill let every one know how things went.
Thank for every one input on my post. Much respect
Amen brother! The rear sight aperture is supposed to blur out when you look through it, anyway. Anything other than a perfect circle is going to be less likely for your eye to center.
Actually, they are designed for that application AND for people who prefer a lower cheek weld. I’m in the second group and for that reason, am looking at the Troy Micros. Thinking about using them with an Aimpoint T-1 mounted on either the lowest LaRue mount or the next to lowest one. Again, I tend to prefer a fairly tight cheek weld. YMMV