I am considering getting my ccw permit and was thinking this would be a great pistol for ccw. Anyone have, or shot the xds and what is your opinion of it.
It has been discussed many times here .You should be able to access the info with the search button:) Hope this helps!
Colt
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I have 600 rounds through mine with no problems. Hard to beat 6 rounds of 45 in a pocket gun.
7+1 rounds of 9x19mm rounds in a smaller pocket gun.
Walther PPS.
7+1 rounds in an even smaller pocket gun with a better trigger.
M&P Shield.
You’ll find that XDs get no love from the majority of the members here. By the same token a lot are service members and need something simole, proven, and reliable.
XDs are great guns and its all up to personal preference. Rent some and shoot some.
Have any of you compared a PPS or a Shield to an XDs in person? By some of the misinformed posts here I don’t think so. Please have knowledge on a topic before you post. It boils down to a caliber/brand flame war really between these 3. I realize people may not like the XD line and that’s cool. Just don’t put out bad info. It does no one any good.
The three are almost identical in size. The XDs is actually thinnest AT ITS WIDEST POINT than the others. Mine has been 100% reliable so has my friends PPS and Shield. As I said, its basically preference at this point.
I do want to add something. S&W nailed the trigger on the Shield. XDs’ trigger is ice, but the Shield’s trigger beats it out of the box.
I think that the PPS is still thinner than the Shield, but the Shield is shorter height, and length wise. I don’t know the exact specs.
The trigger on the PPS is pretty good. I haven’t shot the Shield.
The Shield has a manual safety. That automatically disqualifies it as an option, in my opinion.
Not if comparing .45 to 9x19mm pocket guns.
The XD has a retarded grip safety, with a magazine release that is prone to sticking, almost no aftermarket support, almost no armorer support, good trigger, decent accuracy, unreliable magazines, is super top heavy, and is uglier than fuck.
At the very least…
You can rack the slide on the XDs when the grip safety is NOT depressed.
That is a welcome change.
Here…we…go…again…:blink:
A retarded grip safety shared with one of the MOST SUCCESSFUL PISTOL DESIGNS OF ALL TIME! How can you argue with success? The Marines just re-issued a pistol WITH A RETARDED GRIP SAFETY! It has Glock inspired internals (if you don’t get what I’m saying, I’m saying they’re VERY similar). The magazine release is NOT prone to sticking, I know because I own one, and I know others that own them. Where do you get that the magazines are unreliable? I can go through hundreds of rounds of ammo completely error free and so can everybody else I know. Aesthetics are an individual’s preference.
Also, the XDs is a COMPLETELY new design from the ground up. You don’t really need an armorer to work on this firearm if you are halfway competent working on firearms. However, it is available if you know where to look. For instance James at XD-HS2000 is very experienced and reliable on the XD line, even the XDs. There is also aftermarket support developing. I for instance have Trijicon HD sights on mine. PRP is developing a trigger that is very close to hitting the market, and Springer Precision isn’t far behind them. As for grip inserts, they are already out via PRP.
I was wrong, there is already a trigger spring kit out. Here it is from PRP, along with the grip inserts. They would be MORE than competent working on the pistol.
http://shop.powderriverprecision.net/category.sc;jsessionid=3B12859C52B0A7780D6721754B453360.qscstrfrnt02?categoryId=17
Here is James’ link for the hell of it. He installs sights perfect every time (they’re dovetail sights like Sig, and regular XD line pistols so they’re a bitch to install), offers various slide refinishing (Duracoat, KG Guncoat), and is an armorer for all the XD pistols and the XDs.
http://www.shop.xd-hs2000.com
My experience with the XD-S has been 100% thus far. I had plans on pocket carrying it as a backup but found it was still just a tad too large/long. Had two of them but decided to part with one in favor of the Beretta Nano for pocket/ankle carry.
The XD-S as mentioned is a totally different design inside when compared to the regular XD line. It’s actually more Glock/Kahr-ish.
Mine has been extremely accurate and reliable with everything I’ve put through it as well, ranging from Winchester Rangers to lead reloads…
The croation hate is strong in this thread.
2 people chimed in with worthless info:lazy:
Yes! awesome gun. Very accurate with no malfunctions after 300+ through it.
Advice:
1.Avoid the +p ammo if you can
2.dont rack it like a girl
3.You will need to shoot atleast 150+ to break it in
4. Consider changing the front site fiber from red to green, it picks up better in the light.
5. If you can rent one to shoot I suggest you do it.
I conceal it with an IWB holster by uncle mikes #15 I believe. Good luck finding one at a decent price. The Xds is in high demand and we all know what that does to the price$.
This guy knows what he is talking about. Don’t forget limp wristing is a no-no too.
Let me say this - and I am NOT a fan of the grip safety.
The XD grip safety seems to work VERY well - at least in its activation/inactivation, UNLIKE my 2 1911s. I have a 1911 in an ‘A1’ configuration AND one with a beavertail and safety hump to prevent it not depressing enough. In either one, I have to be careful gripping the gun to get the safety off. This NEVER happens in my XD, and I never hear anyone complain that the 1911 has a grip safety.
[b]1. 300 rds. aren’t very many to determine the reliability of a pistol. Exactly what ammo was used?
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Avoid +P ammo. WTF does this mean? Any decent handgun will handle +P or +P+ ammo for a time.
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Shoot 150 rds. for break in? Really?
Should a top quality handgun need a break-in period? [/b]
But for about $589.00 I’d say its worth a shot. That’s a budget pistol IMHO.