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The second dead bird…
This new steel target I bought from Custom Metal Products (CMP) for a total cost including shipping of $91, is easily one of the best pickups I made in some time. I only needed to have one extremely fun day with it and my AR’s to know just how great these steel targets are.
I won’t go to deep as I think my videos above should do all the talking combined with the few pictures I’m posting, but I do feel obligated to throw a bit of love to CMP given how damn pleased I’m with my purchase, and also the fact that I had an email from the company president less than 30mins after ordering informing me that my order was about to be shipped(this was monday…received it on weds.) and wanted to know if I had any comments, suggestions, or questions for him at that time. Straight first class gent, and I research forever about this AR500 target business and his prices were the very best I found on the net.
So ask yourself, is that target in my video’s worth a bit less than a $100 bill…I submit hell yes it is, do yourself and your shooting game a favor, and look into getting your own steel setup for your AR’s.
Pics…
Takedown:
Only little flaw, a shot took a small chip off the edge but from my understanding any high quality AR500 plate will do the same.
good stuff!
And I am definitely going to have to give them a call, I need some steel to bang on
Did you find the 18 grouping better than the 10 or anything of the sort?
Also, both of these are Rock barrels right?
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lol I guess watching the videos all the way through answered my question. Looked like 3 misses with 10 and the 18 was a tight group center mass?
Not criticizing, these are good videos for sure. Just wondering
Those are awesome videos. I’m going to order those targets, my steel ones are beat to hell.
Thank you very much for the videos, very well done.
Looks like a lot of fun! When were kids, we’d go camping in a canyon in the Mojave Desert that gave us a mountainside a mile or two long and covered with granite rocks to shoot against. We’d pick out a rock, guesstimate the hold-over, fire and wait in anticipation for the tell-tale thwock of a solid hit with anything we shoot- including shotgun slugs
Oh- Ya left your car door open…
“Only little flaw, a shot took a small chip off the edge but from my understanding any high quality AR500 plate will do the same.”
Plates that chip on the edges are not high quality.
Thanks for posting the videos, but I’m not quite sure it really proves the point. A solid rest for the rifle and quantitative measure of accuracy is needed to prove your premise that they are as accurate as each other. Yes you showed that you can hit steel almost as well with an SBR as you can with a SPR. And for most people, especially steel assualters, I guess that is good enough.
The issues I have are that 240yards isn’t all that far and you aren’t taking into account how much velocity those rounds are carrying even at that short distance. I think I can see a difference in the energy imparted on the target, but that is qualitative not quantitative measurement. For bad guy shooters, that might be a consideration.
Longer barrels really only add accuracy potential because the potential of the sight radius being longer. Scopes take that out of the equation.
Like I said, thanks for the videos. They beat the crap out of the videos that I haven’t posted 
. I’m also trained as a chemist and I love to pick apart ‘experiments’.
Where did you get the mount for the camera that goes from P-rail to I assume 1//4-20 camera mount? Can’t quite swing for a the new Contour, that might work for some cameras I have around.
Looking forward to more videos.
You and Cameron are like gun twins. I opened the thread and just looked at the pics and though they were his.
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Good shooting Brother and thanks for the heads up on the targets. Mine are also beat to hell. It must have over 40K shot through it so far and 50% of it being .308 and at under 50 yards…
It should not be surprising that a steel plate can be hit at 236 yards with a 10.5.
That’s bad ass Trident.
Is it just me or can you actually see the vapor trail or wave right before it makes contact with the plate in the 1st video? I’m watching from an iPod so maybe not.
While the vids are cool, I’m not sure just what you are trying to illustrate. Yes SBRs can be accurate at extended ranges.
The problem arises with the ballistic potential of the round when it reaches the target. A round from a 10.5" barrel is not going to provide the same terminal ballistic performance as an 18" barrel. Don’t get me wrong I don’t really want to stand in front of either.
What I found interesting was the vapor trail on the first vid. This is something most people never get to see and the vid is a great illustration of it.
ETA: Edge hits from centerfire rifle rounds on high quality steel WILL produce damage to the plate.
Do you think the SBR doesn’t show the vapor trail bc of the decreased velocity/energy or is it just slightly different lighting between the two vids?
Thanks for the vid. That’s the first time I’ve ever seen the vapor trail from that perspective. It’s on Top Sniper, but this was a much better view.
Please keep it up!
How are you getting the long range impact shots- camera and lens. I’m looking for a T mount adaptor for my 5DmkII to my Kowa scope and then hook the 5D to a laptop soI can easily replay the video from my shooting position.
What was that P-rail to camer mount on the MRP?
It’s nice to get people outside, actually shooting their guns, so with that in mind, please accept my thanks in providing data to the readers.
However, long barrels are primarily to provide the projectile with sufficient velocity (really force) to do work at the ranges at which readily hitting a torso becomes less than easy. There was also a time in which we were all shooting with iron sights, and longer barrels meant longer sight radius, which meant less aiming error. It has been well known that shorter barrels are more rigid than longer, and therefore (if all other factors are the same) will be more consistent.
I have shot 10.5 inch guns out past 500 meters on torso targets, and as long as th trigger puller did his job, the target danced. However, what that little 62 gr pill will do at that velocity is less than impressive.
True, whoever is on the other side of that shot isn’t going to be much happier, but a few hundred feet per second more can make a significant difference at those ranges and when trying to penetrate common cover.
Nice vids, I continue to be impressed with what my 11.5’s will do at 100 yards for tight groups.
Good stuff.
Joe R- I don’t want to turn this into a debate on plate steel, but the old (I believe)Portatarget steel at BSR had no cratering on the edges. I can’t recall seeing any on Action Target made with AR550. The MGM targets I’ve shot seem prone to it. I will see if I can get pics
OP-- you’ll find that the targets last way longer when shot with the 10.5". 18" can really chew up steel. I noticed that you’re shooting them with Vmax ammo. As a hanging target it shouldn’t show that much pitting at 236 yards. (hanging targets are able to spread out the impact longer than a static plate) I’d only shoot them with FMJ.
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