Is there a basic Service Rifle/High Power/CMP style of shooting that I could look into where it’s basic Irons and not a lot of Camp Perry equipment?
I have an OK iron sight AR and decent hand loads, but I’m not wanting to dive into a bunch of shooting jackets and world class 1000 yard stuff.
It’s a ton of fun for sure. I haven’t done it in years but I used to shoot local matches with a buddy years ago. We used M1s and our NM M1a rifles, but guys would mix in with their ARs. It was informal but we did all the positions. There’s sitting, prone & off-hand, a good sling is beneficial markm. I never had a coat or glove but always did good still, they are a bonus but not required. We only shot out to 200 but used reduced-size targets to simulate 600, still a challenge keeping them all in the black. Give it a try and have fun for sure, the off-hand will kill ya, LOL Here is a little info for ya. Check local there very well could be some matches so ya can try it out.
https://www.ssusa.org/content/intro-to-service-rifle/#:~:text=For%20those%20of%20us%20that%20have%20never%20shot,to%20complete%20this%20slow%20fire%20course%20of%20fire.
Hey Mark,
I’d say grab your ar and show up at a local match. Bring a sling and have data on 1/2/3/600 yd. Bring 20 round mags, a glove if you have it and the folks there will likely be happy to lend a hand/gear/tips on what is really needed. You will have fun. Maybe sign up with CMP and download the rule book and get a competitor number. Its free.
Best of luck.
Mark, contact your state shooting association highpower rifle coordinator for the nearest club. My club in Texas had everything a shooter needs to get started – and we would issue it out, free, for anyone seriously interested.
When I say everything, I mean you just had to show up and Rick would assign you a rifle and magazines, ammo, coat, scope and stand, mat, glove, and data book. If you like the sport you’ll eventually buy your own stuff.
I shot iron sight M16 until the 2015 rule change allowing 4.5x scopes. A Vortex 1-4.5X with quarter-minute clicks was under $300.
Highpower rifle shooters are the nicest group I’ve ever shot with that wants you to succeed.
Thanks. I got my 300, 400, and 500 come ups yesterday with 85 gr Match Burners. I need to get 200 and 600 next outing. I definitely have the 20 round mags, but my current sling is IDF set up for “tactical” carry, not marksmanship.
I’m just running an M5 RAS and a White Oak Dissipator style 16" (rifle sight radius)
I used to go to matches, but I got turned off by the ammo cost (at least 50 rounds per serving) and, like you, the shooting jacket slinging-up crowd. It is too technical to be practical. Instead I set up game to compete against myself. Improving upon myself is what I care, not winning match or breaking record.
-TL
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Yeah. It’s cool that there’s shooters that go all in and have FF match barrels and Perfectly calibrated field sights, but I’m after just what you’re talking about… practical use of a real world iron sight AR.
I really should practice the course of fire on our range to see if I like it much.
Yeah. It’s cool that there’s shooters that go all in and have FF match barrels and Perfectly calibrated field sights, but I’m after just what you’re talking about… practical use of a real world iron sight AR.
I really should practice the course of fire on our range to see if I like it much.
Here’s a match format they throw a few times a year in Colorado. My son (an infantryman and gun queer) would shoot these with a rack-grade M4 and a Beretta in work fatigues and his web gear (no Camp Perry equipment):
TWO GUN COMBAT MATCH, RIFLE-PISTOL
Hosted by Buffalo Creek Gun Club, www.bcgc.com. Near Bailey, Co. 0800 on Sun. Aug 18, 2024
Purpose: To have a safe, fun, shooting opportunity in which to use a rifle that might otherwise be collecting dust. Especially suited to newer shooters. All are welcome. No reason to miss this one. Open to anyone legally able to possess firearms. Club or other memberships NOT required.
Intended for rack grade rifles (iron sights or optics) such as AR15 types, M1 Garands, AK, SKS, M1A, etc. Any safe rifle with safe ammo is allowed. No tracer or incendiary ammunition.
Spotting scopes for sight-in only at 600 yds. No shooting coats (light MTU cloth jackets permitted). No shooting gloves, blinders, carts or other equipment needed. Ground cloth or mats allowed (firing lines are gravel), especially at 600 yard line.
The match is based on the current US Army combat EIC (Excellence in competition) match. All stages will be fired on the M9 target, same size as E silhouette, 20”x40”, with scoring rings. This is a no alibi match.
What to bring: rifle, sling, and approx. 65 rounds, hearing and eye protection, weather appropriate clothing, water, snacks or food, small binoculars (not needed if using a scoped rifle, 2-6 magazines, magazine pouches, (or stripper/en-bloc clips), and a small pack are recommended.
Sling (loop or hasty) allowed in all positions. Pack may be used for support in prone stages. Bipods allowed. Scoring will be done in pits.
Stat house opens at 0730. Range capacity is 60. Pre-registration requested. For questions or to register: epjend317@gmail.com or 303-564-5077. Entry fee: BCGC members $5, non-members $10. Women and Jrs. $5. Match program subject to change at discretion of match director.
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TWO GUN COMBAT MATCH COURSE OF FIRE
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600 or 500 yds 10 minute sight in
Stage 1: 600 or 500 yd slow fire. 10 shots in 10 minutes. Prone supported. Pull and mark each shot. All hits worth 5 pts, Max score 50 pts
Stage 2: 300 yd rapid fire. Standing to prone. 10 shots in 70 seconds. Max score 50 pts.
Stage 3: 300 yd sustained fire. Sitting position. 5 rounds fired in 1 minute. Begin time in position. Max score 25 pts.
Stage 4: 200 yd rapid fire. Standing to kneeling, 5 rds fired in 60 sec’s
Stage 5: 200 yds. Fire 5 rds from standing position. Targets will be exposed for two 30 sec exposures. Fire twice during first exposure, three times during second exposure. Targets will again be exposed for two 30 second exposures, engaging in the sitting or kneeling position from standing.
Stage 6: 200 yds moving targets. With 5 rds engage only your numbered target with 5 shots from the standing position. Targets will remain in numerical order. Targets will traverse approx 75 ft at a slow pace (walking speed).
Stage 7: 200 yds moving. Sitting or kneeling. Targets will reverse and travel at a faster pace (fast walk, slow run). Engage your target with 5 shots while it traverses approx 75 ft.
PISTOL PHASE: Total of 22 shots. Both hands may be used. Start from ready position. 25 yds. 5 rounds fired from standing or crouch position. Reload and fire 5 rounds from kneeling or sitting position. Time limit 70 secs.
Zombie drill (Failure to stop): On command, load a mag of 6 rounds and move forward in-line to 10 yd line. On signal, fire 2+1 . On signal fire 2+1 . On command, reload a mag of 6, move forward, and on command fire 2 + 1. On command move forward, and on command fire final 2 +1. Unload, show clear.
Double action pistols will fire first shot double action. Safeties will be on until “fire” command is given.