How do they compare with the rest of the Tier 1 manufacturers? Yes I guess this a bit of a “Is brand X a hair better than brand Y” thread, but heck, thats the question I am needing to ask. Spending $ means making decisions.
Are you looking for subjective opinions or quantifiable features? If the latter, have you looked at The Chart?
Very good company with a quality product. I am not a fan of a couple things they do, but a good all around product.
C4
Hello Grant:
What are the thing’s you’d like to see Sabre do differently?
Thanks.
Already saw the chart, I am looking for: “I got mine and the upper/lower were very tight and it shot like a house afire” or “I got mine and fit-finish was horrible and I sent it back and they were completely rude to me.”
Both the above are fictional of course, but I want personal experience validating or not validating the extra $1-300 they ask.
Yes…do tell!
Mil-spec RE, HPT/MP test barrel and bolts, use H buffers instead of carbine buffers.
Other than than, they stuff is GTG.
C4
It was my understanding that they do these things. Not correct?
They MP test only in batches last time I checked. They were going to HPT/MP test everything in the future, but don’t know if they have started to or not yet.
C4
Sent 'em the question via the “contact us” portion of their site. We’ll see what kind of response we get.
If they don’t do the testing on all samples, The Chart will need to be modified.
For the majority on this forum “fit and finish” is a non issue.
For me reliability is an issue. I am correcting the “fit and finish” on an AR mutt my dad bought from a friend of mine who sold it for fit-finish reasons. 5 minutes or less of gently grinding will fix it. No more FTF’s 
UHHHHH fit and finish and relaibility arent related.
Usually no, and probably not on any rifle but a Mutt like my friend made. SOMEHOW (I dont know how) the feed-ramps have a gap between them and the lower. They are not M4 feed ramps as far as I can tell either. It is just enough of a gap on the left ramp to snag sharper tipped rounds.
I guess this would qualify as “build quality” instead of “fit-finish” though, you are correct.
It seems like the idiots from Barf.com are starting to trickle over.
If you don’t already know, this site isn’t to tell what your daddy says or what a friend thinks he knows or any other bullshit. This site is for sharing quality information. Don’t claim to know what your talking about when you obviously don’t know shit. This is the 3rd thread you have been giving your “expert” opinion, and its clear you are lost in the sauce. Keep your mouth shut and listen, learn, and listen some more.
Sorry for rant. Have a PT-test in a few hours…HA
Heard back.
They are starting to test every sample, as opposed to representative samples, but they do not feel comfortable saying “all our bolts and barrels are MPI and HPT” just yet. I find that admirable, but I have adjusted The Chart and pushed them back a couple of notches until they feel comfortable telling us they are 100%.
In other news, they did take a look at The Chart, and other than a couple of minor changes they said that their column is accurate.
Good, glad I my info was correct. They are a quality company that do what they say.
C4
Sounds good. I am really getting the feeling that SDI is a notch above Armalite in a few aspects. Since the rifles both will cost me the same, I am leaning towards SDI.
Is the non-milspec buffer-tube an issue on an AR15 A2 20" w/fixed buttstock? Or are all those buffer tubes the same and this is an M4 issue? Still trying to get it all figured out, Thanks.
A2 RE’s do not differ in size.
Thanks!