Since this was mentoned in another thread, I thought a new thread would be good.
I’ve seen this firing position used by some highly thought of instructors when shooting barricades.
I’ve also seen some shooters try it and they wound up exposing their knee and elbow.
What is the correct way to teach it and what are the good and bad points?
Thanks
Reverse kneeling is useful if one must run a rifle or shotgun strong-hand-only. The strong arm’s elbow can be supported by the upraised strong-side knee.
Rosco
You mean shooting with ONLY one hand right?
Yes. I mean shooting without the use of the support-side hand, such as might occur due to an injury to same.
If you are having to support and fire a long gun with only the firing hand, supporting that side’s elbow on your knee can be of help. This will require reversing which knee is up as compared to conventional braced kneeling.
Rosco
Around 2:15 of this video Kyle Lamb talks about having the firing side knee up.
http://www.youtube.com/user/VikingTactics#p/u/15/vZJzJGawqLs
I use this method as it:
-Allows you to “lock” the rifle down with your knee on the firing side. I have been faster and more accurate with this method of knee support off of barricades
&
-Allows you to step out and pursue the target in a dynamic environment
PJ
If precision strings, tracking, and movement are more important than cover, a reverse kneeling is a better choice for barricade/support work.
I tend to initially assume a standard knee position and switch to a reverse knee if the situation/circumstance demands or permits it. As noted above, it is also useful for one handed kneeling, which deserves at least a little practice.
When it comes to assuming a reverse kneeling it can be a little difficult to accurately judge proper distance from the barricade during approach at a run, so it is something that I have shooters work on for a while dry after they are proficient with the technique.
INteresting you should reference that video. In the other thread about support hand grip it was mentioned about the “C” grip. In this video, the shooter demonstrating the drill employs same toward the end as he moves to his left to the barricade.
That grip was utilized due to the position the shooter was already in.
PJ
KNEES!
Uhm Okay…care to expound a little?
That was one of the biggest things shooters had trouble with from what I saw.
Dan and all the students ended up yelling that. One student actually yelled it at himself. 
@ Redhat
I did not mean to leave you hanging.
The shooter was using a “C” grip while employing his weapon off the barricade. For the sake of expediencey and because he knew what still needed to be shot he opted for the “C” grip rather than having to adjust his hand position to its normal shooting support grip. This is atleast how it was explained to me.
PJ
Thanks,
What does yelling “KNEES” refer to?
your knee is out of cover. anything showing is a target. have to be mindful of your own target profile while engageing theirs.
VTAC along with the other tier 1 guys I have seen teach all teach this method of knee position.
At VTAC classes it is typically new to most shooters who havent shot with VTAC and some others to not use this knee position.
Yelling “KNEES” is in reference to the instructors correcting the students during a course of fire.
I do not want to sound like an elitist prick, but if you ever take a class with them you will understand what I am talking about.
PJ
VMI,
Thanks again.
Maybe one day when I hit the lottery I can go sign up with those guys.
My question is are the correcting having the wrong knee up or the knee extended out too far?
Regarding my original post, I think F2S provided a good answer as to the “PROs/CONs”.
Wrong answer.
Knees is not what you will hear during class for exposing the knee. It is said when you are using the wrong knee, in the kneeling position when shooting around a corner. The picture below explains what is being discussed about which knee to have up while shooting around a corner.
I should of clarified that in my earlier posts.
Thanks
PJ
Looking forward to shooting with you in a couple of weeks.
Thanks “JF”
To add to what others have already said,
It allows the kneeling shooter a more stable position to keep from being pushed out from behind cover if “bumped” from behind.
If working with another shooter on a high/low then having the rear knee up makes it easier for the kneeling shooter to push off if getting “picked up” by the high shooter. Harder to explain than to demonstrate.
I’ve also found it easier to transition from strong side to support side when shooting around barricades with the rear knee up.