Recoil Springs for converted Hi Power 40S&W to 9mm

So I had MK3 firearms build me a sweet Browning Hi Power, but what we did was take a 40S&W and convert it to 9mm.

So my question is as follows the tradition recoil spring weight for a 9mm Hi Power is 17 pounds.

But in the 40S&W converted to 9mm we have some changes that I think need to be taken into account.

  1. The 40S&W has 3 locking lugs and not 2 like the regular 9mm from the factory Hi Power.
  2. The slide of the 40S&W weighs 3 oz more than the original 9mm slide.

My question is can I get away with running a 15 pound recoil spring in the pistol due to the difference in the slides?

The slide travels smoother with the lighter spring.

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Our pistol smith would ask “what ammo do you wish to shoot?” Hot carry? Factory 124s? low power factor competition?

15 lbs sounds like a good starting point if you’re not running soft loads.

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MK3 had put a 17 pound recoil spring in it.

But that is the stock weight for a Hi Power 9mm and I think that in a 40S&W converted to 9mm with the extra weight of the slide and going from 2 locking lugs to 3 the round will use a lot more energy to move all that mass and resistance over a stock 9mm slide.

Besides I am tired of Iran talk. This is so much more interesting to me.

I have not shot the pistol yet, because the KKM barrel was fitted to the slide and frame by MK3, but I wanted it black isonited so it will look better in my black finished pistol. But KKM told me that they see a 100 to 150 fps increase in a regular KKM barrel and a finished one due to the reduction in friction. So the 9mm conversion barrel is back at KKM for a 2 to 3 week period.

Some fun facts MK3 milled in a high undercut and added a light rail. I would have thought the 40S&W frame would be heavier than the 9mm but they weight the same. Like I said the slide of the 40S&W is 14.9 oz and the 9mm slide is 12 oz .

Total weight for 40S&W is 31.04 and the 9mm is 28 oz , a difference of 3.4 in the slide.

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When I did these conversions. I always used the original spring and work down if i had too. Mine was not a MARKiii, it was early 2000’s so who knows. The OEM 40 spring worked flawless with my weak hand loads.

I had more issues with the extractor than I did with the springs.

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You will notice if the slide is slamming into the frame with a too light spring and feel it in the recoil impulse. BHP Spring Solutions had the spring kits for rebuilding my high power finds and they have a lot of material to review. Maybe they have experience with this conversation and can add some pointers.

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I don’t know if I am looking at the issue correctly.

I am thinking that a heavier slide will bleed more energy than a lighter slide.

So if I look the increase in weight of the slide, I would think I could lower the recoil spring weight by the same percent it should workout fine.

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Typically small recoil spring weight changes are done to help the sights return to point of aim when firing a fast pair. Too strong and muzzle will dip when returning to battery. If OEM is 17 lbs, 15 sounds very reasonable as long as reliability is maintained. I run my M&Ps, 4” and 5” with 15 lb recoil springs w/o issues.

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Here is the video MK3 did on my pistol.

The barrel is now back at KKM getting Block Isonite finish.

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Very nice! Congrats!

What? No Muzzle Brake???

I’m kidding !

my Glock 35 converted to .357sig also has an extended barrel and is mag na ported and the thing has very little recoil.

So while it will never get a muzzle brake, it might get ported

I Know, I know, I just had to ask considering .