Ready for the canadian military?

Canada, U.S. agree to use each other’s troops in civil emergencies
David Pugliese , Canwest News Service
Published: Friday, February 22, 2008
Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other’s borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

The U.S. military’s Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

American soldiers arrive on board the HMCS TORONTO as part of a training exercise in carrying out a NATO presence patrol in the Indian Ocean near Somalia. A new agreement between the U.S. and Canadian militaries has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.
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The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is raising concerns about the deal.

“It’s kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and contentious issues like military integration. We see that this government is reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is readily available on American and Mexican websites,” said Stuart Trew, a researcher with the Council of Canadians.

Trew said there is potential for the agreement to militarize civilian responses to emergency incidents. He noted that work is also underway for the two nations to put in place a joint plan to protect common infrastructure such as roadways and oil pipelines.

“Are we going to see (U.S.) troops on our soil for minor potential threats to a pipeline or a road?” he asked.

Trew also noted the U.S. military does not allow its soldiers to operate under foreign command so there are questions about who controls American forces if they are requested for service in Canada. “We don’t know the answers because the government doesn’t want to even announce the plan,” he said.

But Canada Command spokesman Commander David Scanlon said it will be up to civilian authorities in both countries on whether military assistance is requested or even used.

He said the agreement is “benign” and simply sets the stage for military-to-military co-operation if the governments approve.

“But there’s no agreement to allow troops to come in,” he said. “It facilitates planning and co-ordination between the two militaries. The ‘allow’ piece is entirely up to the two governments.”

If U.S. forces were to come into Canada they would be under tactical control of the Canadian Forces but still under the command of the U.S. military, Scanlon added.

News of the deal, and the allegation it was kept secret in Canada, is already making the rounds on left-wing blogs and Internet sites as an example of the dangers of the growing integration between the two militaries.

On right-wing blogs in the U.S. it is being used as evidence of a plan for a “North American union” where foreign troops, not bound by U.S. laws, could be used by the American federal government to override local authorities.

“Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!” notes one website. “The next time your town has a ‘national emergency,’ don’t be surprised if Canadian soldiers respond. And remember - Canadian military aren’t bound by posse comitatus.”

Posse comitatus is a U.S. law that prohibits the use of federal troops from conducting law enforcement duties on domestic soil unless approved by Congress.

Scanlon said there was no intent to keep the agreement secret on the Canadian side of the border. He noted it will be reported on in the Canadian Forces newspaper next week and that publication will be put on the Internet.

Scanlon said the actual agreement hasn’t been released to the public as that requires approval from both nations. That decision has not yet been taken, he added.

© Ottawa Citizen 2008

Well as much as I hate to piss off the Tin Foil wearers on both sides :smiley: – its been done for a while prior to 911…

Plus over 200 Cdn and US troops are on inter-unit exchange continuously. I fone worries about the Canadian Army in the US – just remember BlackWater gets block booked , and other sites through CONUS are used by units for training.

No one has tried to take down the Stars and Strips (and quite frankly your more likley to have Cdn troops raise it north of the border…)

Thanks, KevinB!:smiley:

Considering the feds are having emergency meetings everywere trying to find some kinda way to keep this economy from collapseing.And if it dose rest assured they have a way of saving the day (The Amero) They relize this will not be popular and are making plans accordingly…

remember the tinfoil gose on shiny side out…

What Kevin said…

FWIW, a Canadian GO was a Deputy Commanding General for III Corps just a few years ago.

Send the Chinese too, make things fun:D

One of those things that show up in my email…

SPECIAL “CLOSED SESSION” OF U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DISCUSSED A LOT
MORE THAN THE PENDING SECURITY SURVEILLANCE PROVISIONS!*

This was only the fourth time in 176 years that Congress has closed its
doors to the public. What was it that they were discussing that they do
NOT want us to know about?

Word has begun leaking from last nights special, closed-door session of
the United States House of Representatives.

Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the
publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed:

  1. The imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008;

  2. The imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February
    2009;

  3. The possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the
    collapse;

  4. Advance round-ups of “insurgent U.S. citizens” likely to move against
    the government;

  5. The detention of those rounded-up at “REX 84” camps constructed
    throughout the USA;

  6. The possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the
    collapses;

  7. The location of “safe facilities” for members of Congress and their
    families to reside during expected massive civil unrest;

  8. The necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada
    (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool);

  9. The issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as
    the proposed solution to the coming economic Armageddon.

Members of Congress were FORBIDDEN to reveal what was discussed.

Several are so furious and concerned about the future of the country, they
have begun leaking info. More details coming later today and over the
weekend.

Source: www.halturnershow.com/

:smiley:

I have to say that I’m fairly concerned with “CLOSED DOOR” meetings. Now as I’m active duty I cant exactly say that I FULLY trust what anyone says in Washington but even more of a concern is sprouted then is a hush, hush.

I’m 1/2 way to retirement and depending on who my next “Commander In Chief” is I’ll just as well EAS and watch how they fall flat on there faces.

E5H//out.