Quick Q-Noveske Lower

Who makes Noveske Lowers? And doesnt whoever make them also make Stag Lowers?

thx

stag/CMT makes stag lowers… they make really good lowers, and do really good work for Noveske. :slight_smile:

CMT is among a few vendors that make Noveske lowers. I believe the different series in the serial numbers denotes different vendors.

who are the “best” vendors?

Anyone that Noveske chooses to manufacture lowers for them :wink: Anything they sell that isn’t a “blem” is considered a good lower from my point of view. Noveske invests quite a bit of time and effort in selecting vendors and on QC of incoming and outgoing products. Every company can let some lemons through the process, but Noveske has a reputation for producing high quality kit. Some people get all girly about different roll marks and whatnot, different strokes…

Hell, even their blem lowers can be far and away machined to a better standard than a LOT of other big players in this game. I’d put a blem Noveske up against a Colt lower any day of the week and I bet the Noveske will look as good or better.

Ok good info guys. Thank You.

DD is in house right? Along with BCM, MEGA and Larue?

Just to clear up some stuff:

Kaiser Defense is currently making Noveske lowers. Each serial number series is made by a different manufacturer.

The B series was Stag/CMT
The C series was LAR (IIRC)
The E series is Kaiser Defense.
The Magpul series were obviously made by Magpul.

I’m not sure who did the initial numbers-only (first) series.

Also, not that it matters, but the latest series (E-series) are engraved, not stamped.

Anyone have any experience with the C-series lowers? I have a couple of E-series (around E01XXX and E02XXX) lowers that I’ve had some minor issues with. I was just wondering if they would be worth switching out if I ever ended up with too much money some day.

Who made the original runs? STAG? I have a 000XX receiver.

If there is something wrong with them you should contact Noveske unless they were sold as a blem…but even in that case those are supposed to be cosmetic issues not functional.

I have an E series blem, and there were no obvious blems on mine. The lower works great mechanically. The only thing I could see it being a blem is the finish is a little bit shiny compared to almost all other anodizing. Not sure if thats just a result of the manufacturer being different or if thats why it was a blem.

Noveske now marks their cosmetic lowers with a “C” prefixed serial number. They are marked “C-0001”.

How can you tell the difference between “The C series was LAR (IIRC)” lowers and the current “C” marked cosmetic lowers?

I think the first lowers were done in house if I’m not mistaken.

there on H now. TIGHT fit on all parts. put in a cmt parts kit :suicide2:

By that thinking you would also have to say that GM/Chevy build the corvette and also built the chevette. Same company much different standard of quality.
That being said most lowers by most companies ive seen and used are functionally fine. (FUNCTIONALLY)
Cosmetics are nice if you dont plan to use the crap out of the rifle.
Cosmetics didn’t matter to me on the last ar I put together as it will be bouncing around in the trunk of my car till I retire and the majority of it is Noveske.
If I had more money all of it would be Noveske or BCM.
As long as it is to proper spec and it runs right all the time everytime then enjoy it.

My Noveske lower does not have a letter anywhere on the serial number… The first number is a 0.

Jeremy

I would like to say…

The reason for purchasing from a company with a top reputation is that they ensure you are getting top quality parts. So if Noveske is using Continental Machine Tool to makes its lowers, that is fine with me because I know they will be certain everything is up to standards and beyond.

I really don’t care who made it. I just find it funny that Stag is looked down on as lower quality and Noveske is at the top when CMT makes alot of the parts for Noveske. It seems people equate quality with what the roll mark looks like.

Jeremy

Todd.K (https://www.m4carbine.net/member.php?u=520) works for Noveske and lurks around the forums some, might be worth shooting him a PM.

When you see someone at the shooting range who can’t get his new/nearly new Stag to cycle, you might change your opinion.

In my line of work, I often hear claims from sub-par manufacturers how their product is just as good as the expensive one. But it is not. A Hyuandai is not a Mercedes, or even a Toyota, or even a Chevy.