PSA PATROL CARBINE MINI-REVIEW

My $999 Palmetto State Armory Patrol Carbine package (including Aimpoint PRO and Magpul BUS) arrived a few days ago. Here is my initial mini-review.

The rifle was packaged well with the Magpul BUS installed. The Aimpoint PRO was in its own box and the magazine was wrapped well so as not to damage anything in transit.

Exterior fit and finish were very good, with no blemishes. There are PSA logos on the upper, lower, stock, bolt, buffer and magazine floorplate. The integral picatinny type mount on the upper receiver is T-numbered.

The bolt assembly was heavily oiled as was the trigger assembly. The bolt is unmarked except for the “MP” test mark, and the trigger pull is typical M4 weight. The carrier key is properly staked.

The only negative was that the bolt was binding slightly when moved back and forth inside the bolt carrier by hand. I assumed that this minor roughness would resolve itself and smooth out after firing a few rounds, which it did.

At the range I fired a total of 150 rounds of Wolf 62gr and PMC X-TAC 62gr ammo from P-Mags, the PSA mag that was included in the package, and several military surplus mags. There were no malfunctions of any kind.

Firing was done at 25y. The Magpul BUS was already sighted in from the factory, but the PRO was off by about 12”. Once the PRO was sighted in firing was done from prone, sitting, and standing. All firing was rapid fire = about 1 shot per second. The rifle was smoking near the end from the barrel heat but the handguards were still cool.

The Aimpoint PRO and the BUS are co-witness useable. The Magpul can be instantly deployed with the push of a button in the unlikely event the PRO fails.

The last 20 rounds were fired from the bench rapid fire resulting in a ragged one-hole group.

This rifle appears to be of very good quality, is 100% reliable, looks good and comes with about $450+ worth of appropriate high quality extras that a street-ready patrol carbine requires. I like it.

Does it use a mil-spec diameter extension and was the endplate staked? Sounds like a good deal for guys getting started.

Quick link to the specs:

http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/2557.php

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were teh feedramps misaligned?

Great review! Can you add some pics of your gun showing:

  1. Both sides
  2. Feedramps
  3. Bolt Carrier disassembled

Thanks!

:wink:

Not hijacking here, but if interested here are pics of my PSA midlength FN upper. These are the views you asked the OP for:




I have about 1k rnds through it so far with only positives to report.:smile:

Thanks for posting the pics Pork Chop, since I don’t know how to do it. Thanks also for specs AMMOTECH, I didn’t include them since I knew they were already on this site, but should have referenced them.

I’ll be going back to the range in a few days for some 100y shooting with target ammo to see what the accuracy potential is, and will report back.

If someone who knows how to post photos would PM me the directions I’d appreciate it.

Thanks for the write up. I have to admit this rifle is attractive in price.

Pork Chop sent me a PM on how to post photos. I’ll try it the next time it is necessary.

That looks like a solid built gun. I wonder what the Colt die-hards are going to say when they finally chime in?

I like PSA. I have one of there uppers, several lowers, and a couple of their premium BCGs as range bag spares. But to say “100% reliable” after 5 mags worth is a little bit of a stretch. I have a couple thousand through my DD and wouldn’t call it 100% reliable. That sounds like Bushy or DPMS ad copy. How about reliable so far, or as pork chop said “only positives to report.”

I’m also not Hijacking…nor pic whorein’. Forgive me if it comes across that way. Just adding to the conversation of PSA and thier products.

But here are some pics of the Dissipator upper I have from PSA, I’ve had it for short bit, but shot it several times on a friends lower before I got my own lower to make sure the function works, and works when hot.

It is built good, these pics are strait out of the box when I was inspecting it etc.

Engraving (explains twist, HP, CL etc.) on the barrel is mostly covered by the FSB which is F marked.

PSA seems good. I am withholding judgement till they have been run pretty hard. But the base specs and quality seem good.

JAVELIN,

For the record I don’t own a Colt. What the Colt “die hards” will tell you is that they need to get a few more years underneath their belt as other have like BCM, DD, Noveske, etc… and then we can talk about it.

I hope that they do well and they truly are putting out good products. I have said all along. If I was the AR15 Czar there would be no shitty ones on the market. Any company that truly puts forth the effort to build a solid AR and backs it up will always get my respect.

I am pretty sure that most other AR owners feel the same way.

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Yeeup.

Yep, that’s what I said on another board I was browesing earlier.

"PSA might be on par when it comes to specs…but it has to prove it’s self like BCM has, in build quality (so far, it’s good), customer service, robustness in thier products (so far it’s good)…that takes time, and people shooting it. "

I don’t own a PSA but am very interested in them.

I’ve read several threads about mis-aligned feed ramps and it seems all the pics in this thread show just that. I realize the M16/AR15 platform functioned for decades prior to M4 ramps but it says something to me regarding quality.

If you have all the right specs but don’t put it together with the same attention to detail it seems to fall short in my eyes.

Critical fail? No. I’m sure they “shoot great” and “function just fine” in 99% (if not all) users hands.

It just rubs me the wrong way.

…or maybe I’m just seeing things.

Harold

I hate to link to ARFCOM. I really do. But, in this case, there’s something worth seeing there.

I don’t know how it’s even possible for the builder to overlook this…(It’s a PSA upper)

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/551333_Wrong_gas_tube_.html&page=1

Two in one night. Another PSA upper with the wrong gas tube installed. I wonder how many rifles they shipped like this?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/551367_ordered_complete_upper__gas_tube_does_not_enter_upper.html

As others have said, I hope PSA does well. Being a relatively young company, there may be some growing pains. Hopefully QC is improved.

Wow… Totally unacceptable.
And this reply just sums it up nicely.

I can say this is suprising but won’t stop me from buying a PSA upper in the future. It’s very high value stuff, they can’t simple do the exact same thing as Colt/BCM/DD for in some cases $100’s less.

Mistakes happen, I’m sure they don’t test fire them, but they do use high quality parts. I guess when you save a bunch, a few hiccups are to be expected, but in the end I’m sure a fine gun will come.

I hope this thread stays unlocked as Palmetto’s response will be key to me, high value kit will have a few bad one’s sneak thru Q&A but if they failed to provide customer service then my $ really will go else wear

I know they don’t do things right but I am going to buy it anyway and save 100 bucks.

Well I own Colts, a few Noveske, Armalite, RR, hell I even have a DPMS sittin back in one of my gun safes… I love black rifles (and other platforms) for sure.

I agree that not all are made the same. But from the few PSA’s that I have seen personally they seem to be alright. Now some of these pics coming up of misaligned feedramps and such is alarming.