We had a guy drive all over the suburbs of North Western Phoenix today shooting people. There are 8 or 9 scenes right now. 1 person has died and 12 others injured.
I’m hearing that the shooter was chanting “Allah Akbar” after being taken into custody. FBI has stated investigating almost immediately.
Of course. Gotta lock that door after the horse has gone.
That being said, there has been a fresh new spate of shootings pretty much all over recently.
Mormons !
The article of course no desc no other info if he was white we would have heard all about it and how he most likely was for trump knowing todays idiocy
That is a bit scary though to be driving around doing this I know when I stop I leave a ton of room so I can move in a vehicle forward and am always looking around 
Daughters college is close to that area but just inside the 101 loop
Thought that was mostly older people in that area near sun city ?
Should be buried pretty quick then.
Why don’t people return fire? I’m honestly puzzled. All this violent crime and nobody is packing? Do good guys just know the areas to avoid?
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No people return for like 3million times a year, you just don’t hear about it.
FIFY
He wasn’t shooting people, he was trying to move the air because it was so hot.
There is just not that many trigger pullers around. The odds of being the one gun faced are probably as slim as winning the lottery. Besides in this era not many are going to sprint across the office park to get involved when you could most likely be labeled the second suspect. David
Cover up, and NOTHING happens. :rolleyes:
You heard it here first!
If it wasn’t for this thread I wouldn’t know anything about this shooting as it is nowhere on the national news sites. If the murderer was wearing a MAGA hat and flying a confederate flag it would be non-stop national news with Slow Joe and the Hoe having multiple press conferences.
Don’t worry it’s coming. He did it because of white supremacy … obviously!
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They do, and happens regulary, and gets zero media coverage. However, the % of people with CCWs who actually carry regularly is surprisingly low, so if you look at % of people with a CCW (not including states with Const carry) and the % of those who actually do it regularly, and the statistical likelihood of actually being in the right (or wrong?) place at the time of such an event, which unlike TV, happens quickly, it’s still low chances of that actually happening. Obviously it varies considerably state to state and area of a state.
Finally, it’s also more likely those with CCW tend to avoid areas and locations where such things have a higher potential to take place is my guess/experience, so another reason perhaps those law abiding types who are armed less likely to be involved in such an event.
Around here most shootings happen in the same neighborhoods. Those who shoot back are typically wannabe gangstas shooting back at wannabe gangstas. I avoid being anywhere near those neighborhoods which is easy for me because I simply have no business being there.
As others have said, not that many law-abiding people are armed in public. Before Constitutional Carry became law, Tennessee had issued about 600k carry permits which is about 10% of adults. I’d be real surprised if more than 10% of those with permits actually carried much. So… maybe 1% of the adult population. And how many would choose to engage an active shooter if they had an option to hide/flee?
Honestly, I am permitted and rarely carry. If a local area makes me think I should carry when I visit, I don’t visit.
Andy
One of the reasons you don’t hear about it much is because most of the time there isn’t a bang. The numbers you cite sound similar to surveys done by Gary Kleck. So-called defensive gun uses can be anything from a homeowner grabbing his gun to check a noise (cat jumping on a garbage can) to a situation like the McCloskeys.
The shootings were all drive by style. Most of the shootings actually happened in pretty nice areas of town.
I’m hearing that the shooter was chanting “Allah Akbar” after being taken into custody. FBI has stated investigating almost immediately.
But remember the biggest threat to our country is those pesky trumper white supremacist we keep hearing about. [emoji57]
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Shooting at someone in a moving vehicle adds a ton of variables that could completely turn you into a murderer very quickly. Unless you can 100% hit that shot perfectly as a civilian, which most can’t, returning fire in this situation might put you in prison.
you might know that area more than me most likely but is that area more retirement age ? I thought it was
The retirement communities are just west of there. So there are definitely a lot more retirees in that area than normal.