Possession of SBR in Washington State

Is it legal to own an SBR in the State of Washington?Any resources available?

According to the info in this thread, the answer is no:

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=11675

Bummer…

Derek

As a sometime WA resident, I’ve always wondered if you could have a registered lower and just throw a Title I upper on it. The Federal and State definitions appear to be different.

But, I don’t have time to pursue it.

Doesn’t Bigfoot live in Washington?If ever there was an argument for owning and carrying an SBR,the possibility of being attacked by Bigfoot is the best one I’ve ever heard.Damn latte drinking hippies!

Unless I’m mistaken, you can OWN a suppressor in WA state, but can NOT actually USE it.

That’s how I’ve come to interpret the law. Makes perfect sense doesn’t it?

SBR are legal to own in WA if they are grandfathered in, LE or MIL.

Can the grandfathered in ones be sold or transfered to other WA residents?

Been wondering that myself. Saw this online, but still need to do more research.

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/states/washington/

Another option I was checking out were AR pistols. We can own those in WA and should state law ever change, they can be converted to a rifle. As I understand the law though; once a rifle, always a rifle. You can’t just switch back and forth but until state law changes or you move to somewhere SBR friendly, the pistol is it unless your situation is as Stickman suggested.

If you read that it specifically says that those NFA items had to have been owned prior to 1994. I used to live in Washington State and the only NFA items that Jo Public can have are AOW’s and suppressors. You may mount it on a weapon, but IIRC if you discharge a round through it is a misdemeanor offense.

+1+ Exactly! Hence my “reservation” up till now. That’s too bad. . .:frowning:

That is so stupid. Who makes up these laws? Oh wait, people we’ve elected. Damn! :mad:

Revised Code of Washington b 9.41.040 (3[/b]): “It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution brought under this section that the machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short barreled rifle was acquired prior to July 1, 1994, and is possessed in compliance with federal law.”

Strangely enough, this change to the RCW took place in 1994 with the passage of the Youth Crime Bill. It would seem that someone with money/power was able to get someone to slide this into the bill as there was a total prohibition of these NFA firearms prior to this change in 1994.

Not sure what you were trying to say, but if I recall NFA items were actually legal in Washington State until 1994. If you read the notes in the RCW the restriction on machine guns was due to “gang activity”. The only weapons that weren’t affected were AOW’s and suppressors.

Are you able to buy an upper (or even a barrel) that is less than 16" in WA as long as it isn’t mated to a lower?

what would be the point of that?

and i doubt it. Its still an NFA item.

I believe that you can, but I don’t remember seeing them in the stores or at the gun shows. I had a Bushamster upper with a 14.5 barrel with a flash hider permed in place. The only time I have seen any reference to parts was one company that wouldn’t ship an M16 “bolt”. Whatever that means?

An upper is an upper. It is up to the end user to make sure that they are compliant. Remember there are people there that have grandfathered stuff.

The point for some would be just to have one. Or, moving to another state. Or, using in another state during training, perhaps. Or, already having one on hand if the dumb law ever got revoked. Other than that, I don’t know. Just thought I’d float the question. I’ve seen quite a few uppers under 16" for sale in WA and wasn’t aware until recently that I couldn’t get one.

Iraqgunz brings up a good point. If you were to perm attach the flash hider (to a 14.5") then it is legal and you don’t have to go through the paperwork, etc. I assume.