Poll: SOPMOD or CTR...

Being that I am a big magpul fan, I have really been eying down the CTR stock lately for my 14.5" LMT. I also really love my SOPMOD, and have loved the stock since the first time I got to play with a Mk18 in Iraq. I know it all comes down to ballance, and I think a CTR or the SOPMOD are both at home on the 14.5" carbine with a low power optic (TA33-8) or RDS. So I am wondering what everyone’s thoughts and opinions are on these 2 stocks for this specific platform.

Cant comment on the CTR but man i love the SOPMOD.

If you can wait a little while, I would suggest trying the ACS. It’s almost like a hybrid between the CTR, UBR, and SOPMOD. Unfortunately, I don’t have any release dates right now, but it’s coming along nicely…

As always, we are eagerly awaiting more tasty Magpul goodness. :slight_smile: It’s always been worth the wait.

I have a CTR and an SOPMOD. I’m going to pop an ACS on my new BCM, and then maybe an UBR on my next build.

(wow - was that enough abbreviations?)

I do like the CTR a bit better, due to the weight and handling.

I’m inclined to agree. I’ve got a UBR on my SPR-style rifle with an AAC SPR/M4, and it balances the weapon well, but I certainly wouldn’t want to run a class with that gun. I’m building up one of my Noveske lowers now using a CTR, MOE Grip, and probably a Noveske N4 Light upper. I’m not sure if I’ve ever held a better handling rifle…

FWIW, IMHO this is an apples vs. oranges comparison…YMMV.

I disagree. Apples vs. oranges would be comparing the SOPMOD to the PRS. For a 14.5" - 16" gun, this would be a difficult choice for me, too. I love the SOPMOD…

Sounds very interesting NickB. Please post some pics when you guys come up with a final version. There’s not a pic on magpul’s website is there?

No photos yet, but soon…

I have a CTR on both my AR’s and love them. I’m intrigued by the new ACS and if I had known about it before purchasing my second CTR, I might have just left the standard 6 pos. stock on it and waited, but I don’t regret buying the CTR. I have no experience with the SOPMOD, but I do love the CTR.

LMT/Crane SOPMOD vs. VLTOR MOD and/or E-MOD vs. the equiv of the Magpul stock when it becomes available would be apples to apples. YMMV.

Magpul CTR vs. M4 vs. CAR stock are apples to apples as well. And again YMMV.

I agree that the stocks are different, but a 14.5" gun could go either way. For me, sub-14.5" guns deserve a standard CAR, MOE, or CTR stock. 14.5" - 16" gets CTR, SOPMOD, EMOD, or UBR. 18"+ deserves UBR or PRS. There is some overlap, which is my point…not necessarily apples to oranges when you consider the rifle it’s going on.

I still say you guys should make an A1 length fixed with swivel cups on both sides, front and rear.

The difference my young brother is you’re comparing the whole rifle. Saying a PRS on a particular rifle is great isn’t truthful (other than it’s great on that particular rifle). A PRS stock on a heavy 20" HBAR AR may be great…this doesn’t automatically mean the CTR sucks on all ARs (some weigh less than 20s and some are shorter than 20".) It just means that a 20" gun isn’t the place for a CTR stock. Just because some cats are gray tabby cats doesn’t mean all cats are gray tabbies…

I’m seeing only the stock and judging it on it’s own merits. Sure sometimes on some heavy ass 16+" guns some heavy stocks better balance them out. This isn’t a good comparison because it’s not a static factor. Not all ARs have the same weight/length uppers.

“Understanding does not come through comparison, it comes only when you examine the thing itself.”

-Krishnamurti

[i]To understand something you cannot compare it with something else.

-Krishnamurti[/i]

I have a SOPMOD and have used a CTR.

I prefer the CTR.

There is a drawing in the new PDF for this fall, located on the website. It gives an overall view of what it should look like.

http://www.magpul.com/pdfs/2008catalog.pdf

Scroll down to page three, and there is a sample.

I am really looking forward to the MBUS as well.

Sorry for the thread-jack. I really do like the CTR, it’s been very comfy for my grey beard as well.

I’m speaking in terms of his probable application. You’re speaking in terms of only the stocks themselves. In almost every situation, regardless of barrel profile or upper weight, a 14.5" gun could be reasonably be built with a CTR or SOPMOD, and is therefore not in any way comparing “apples to oranges.” Yes, the SOPMOD has a sloping cheek weld. Yes, the CTR has a friction lock. But for his gun, I don’t see those as being any more different than one’s preference between black and foliage green…it’s just preference for this build.

I have both and prefer the SOPMOD.

Nick, you are totally understanding what I’m getting at. I can see either of these stocks right at home on my LMT, hence I was looking for opinions and thoughts on which stock everyone would choose and why.

Yeah, I got one of those “propaganda” pamphlets at the Ft. Morgan MG shoot in May and saw the ACS. It looks kind of like the new HK 416 stock, except not butt ugly… I will definitely have a look when they come out :smiley:

gotm4, I see what you’re saying, however I tend to view weapons as an over all picture, and indeed more than the sum of their individual parts. For this reason I specified the exact weapon which I will be using the stock. I agree, if I had worded the poll/question as “which stock is better UBR, CTR, SOPMOD, or A2” or something to the extent without and qualification then an apples to oranges comparison would be warranted.

I have the SOPMOD on my 14.5, 5.56mm. Currently I’m in the process of building a 6.8 SPC with a 16 inch mid. I’ve been leaning towards the UBR, but the ACS looks pretty cool. Besides, the ACS is half the price of the UBR. Regardless it will be FDE! :smiley: