Pics of new Russian camo, equipment and uniforms.

Pumpkinheaver · July 17, 2010, 2:04am

That’s what I thought as well.

DragonDoc · July 17, 2010, 9:51pm

Alex_V:

I have to agree… The Russian/Soviet mindset was not to wage war in the sand, but in the forest. This is why Soviet tanks were green, not FDE and why they sucked so bad in Iraq. They were made to fight a war in Eastern Germany not the Middle East.

Same reason why the Mi-24 Hind had a hard time in A-Stan, its engines were made to take off from air fields close to sea level, not in the sand and at high mountain altitudes.

Its a totaly different mindset. I am sure that the US army has better training and gear, but I have a feeling if fighting in the forests of Europe a US Marine would have trouble in adapting [at first] because right now, the training [i assume] is more focused on the desert. The Russian soldier would have the ability to get within effective range of his AK. Thats not to say he will be able to hit the Marine, but he could get close enough to lol.

Never underestimate your “enemy”

I don’t know about the Marines but I spent my first 18 years in the Army training for woodland combat. Everything was geared towards scrapping in the woods until OIF came along. Desert fighting is easy and woodland training more than suffices to make the transition. Now Urban and mountain warfare is a different story all together. But we are all getting a graduate level education in both.

CENTCOM_Survivor · July 17, 2010, 10:06pm

Its just a matter of time before all those patterns get mixed and matched. Every Russian soldier I saw in Bosnia (98) had different tops and bottoms. I cant recall any of them having a complete matching uniform.

GermanSynergy · July 18, 2010, 3:53am

You saw that too, huh? BTW where were u at in BiH in 98? I was in Tuzla and Sarajevo. Small world.

CENTCOM_Survivor · July 18, 2010, 5:42am

I was at Tuzla also, small world indeed! I was with the Cav (545th MP) as the ADC driver. The 89th did our PSD. You know Fred Killea?