Pics of new Russian camo, equipment and uniforms.

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You have to give the Russians credit for trying but there is still a huge chasm between what is issued to American forces compared to Russians.

It’s clear they are modeling their enhancements and improvements after the Americans and British.

And that is a rather ambitious AK. Any Marine with an off the rack M16A4 could kill them well before they got within effective range.

Low IR signature camo but with black boots?

The Russians are so broke they cant even field their so called AK replacement, so how are they going to support all those different camo patterns.

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A lot of the cammo patterns remind me of Waffen SS circa 1945.

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Apparently one of the new patterns is called SURPAT (Survival Pattern).

A few more pics, which again, show the American influence, even down to the cut of the uniform.

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More SURPAT

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You need to recall that there is a fairly large percentage of the globe that would allow a semi-competent person to sneak within useful range for that AK before your rifleman had a chance to see them. Too much desert and arid mountain mindset in your statement.

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I have to agree… The Russian/Soviet mindset was not to wage war in the sand, but in the forest. This is why Soviet tanks were green, not FDE and why they sucked so bad in Iraq. They were made to fight a war in Eastern Germany not the Middle East.

Same reason why the Mi-24 Hind had a hard time in A-Stan, its engines were made to take off from air fields close to sea level, not in the sand and at high mountain altitudes.

Its a totaly different mindset. I am sure that the US army has better training and gear, but I have a feeling if fighting in the forests of Europe a US Marine would have trouble in adapting [at first] because right now, the training [i assume] is more focused on the desert. The Russian soldier would have the ability to get within effective range of his AK. Thats not to say he will be able to hit the Marine, but he could get close enough to lol.

Never underestimate your “enemy”

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After the motley group pictures, the rest don’t look like russian troops at all except for the AKs. The boonie hats (especially the MC one), the “caps” like you see USMC guys wearing, etc look totally like western soldiers.

Interesting to see all the EO Techs and Aimpoints and what looks like a CAA stock on one of the AKs.

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This looks like it would work well in the southeastern US.

Where can I get some? :cool:

Scoby

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[QUOTE=Alex V;706225] a US Marine would have trouble in adapting [at first] because right now, the training [i assume] is more focused on the desert. The Russian soldier would have the ability to get within effective range of his AK. Thats not to say he will be able to hit the Marine, but he could get close enough to lol.
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We still train for the sticks.

Never underestimate your “enemy”

True Dat

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What kinda gun is that?

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Hey AK guys, how would those AKs hold zeros with the optics mounted to the top receiver cover? Is that enthusiasm over capability?

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they are mounted to the side-mount rail, not the cover.

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SR-3M Vikhr

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MultiCam-ski

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Maybe it’s just me, but russian forces always remind me of southern militias. Pasty white guys with poor fitting bdu’s in crazy patterns.

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I was about to laugh at all the different patterns but then I remembered the last time I deployed I had 4 different patterns just on me.

I guess the good thing is the Russians could never afford a prolonged war with a western nation let alone NATO. They do better fighting Georgia or Chechnya, and selling their crappy equipment to the 3rd world.

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The first group of pics looked like some reserve or second line troops (mixed uniforms, equipment, etc).

The later pics looked more first line.

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One looks identical to the 1943/44 Oak pattern.

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They probably hired a waffen ss guy from circa 1945 to redesign it.