Obama says US must end gun violence

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http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080215/D8UQSIDG1.html

Feb 15, 12:14 PM (ET)

By NEDRA PICKLER

MILWAUKEE (AP) - Barack Obama says the country must do “whatever it takes” to eradicate gun violence but believes in the right to bear arms.

Obama says he’s offered his Senate office to help Northern Illinois University with the investigation into a campus shooting rampage. The shooting happened in his home state. Obama was campaigning in neighboring Wisconsin.

The senator, a former constitutional law instructor, says he believes the Second Amendment to the Constitution grants individual gun rights.

But he says it’s subject to commonsense regulations like background checks.

He believes the Second Amendment to the Constitution grants individual rights. What does that mean? Seems a little disingenuous to me.

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They all say that. Just background check, then registration and finally confiscation.

Do not believe they will stop at that. Once the antis get the wedge in they will want more and more.

Look at what happened in England. In 1997 they banned all legally owned handguns. 11 years later people still get shot, the city of Manchester has so much gun crime that its called Gunchester in the media. Gun crime went through the roof

Rant off.

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Very interesting in light of some of his previous comments.

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Bingo!!!

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Better get ready, because he will be the next president. :frowning:

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Man is that the truth. Could it be that he is just saying whatever he thinks will help him get elected?:rolleyes:

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If saying that will get him 1000 votes, he is ALL for it. No matter if it’s a lie, nor not.

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Here’s a brief synopsis of Obama’s view and his plans for our right to arms:

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Positions on Gun Control:

Ban semi-automatics, and impose more restrictions on other types of firearms possession; Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998

Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons;

Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms;

Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.

On the issue of prohibiting citizens from carrying concealed weapons, Obama said he believes national legislation should be passed to “prevent other states’ laws [allowing citizens to conceal their guns] from threatening the safety of Illinois residents.”

“I believe we need to renew–not roll back — this common sense gun law,” [The Clinton “Assault Weapons” Ban]

Proposes several gun-control laws, including restricting purchases of weapons and ammunition at gun shows, establishing a national database that would capture and record imprints left by bullets, and making gun locks mandatory.

Obama said concealed weapons should be allowed for retired police officers and some military personnel.

“Ordinary citizens should not be allowed to own military assault weapons, such as AK-47s and Uzis.”

Does ANY of that sound “reasonable” to you? It sure as hell doesn’t to me.

The bottom line: Obama in the White House is just as bad as Clinton in the White House. When it comes to our right to arms, there is no difference between the two. NONE.

We already have the only gun law we need - it’s called the Second Amendment.

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Hmm… if his proposed ban is true but doesn’t applied to current or former LE/Military members then I guess I personally won’t be affected.

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Let’s hope not.

I still hope that Republicans will mobilize in the general election and keep the very liberal dems out.

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most gun free states are very white (race) states, Utah for example.

I just dont see the good old boys giving up their arms to a black president. The backlash would be massive. There are a lot of James Earl Rays and Tim Mcveighs looking for a reason to cause havoc, and a Black President trying to ban guns just might be the straw that breaks the camels back

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I’m sure if that happened the LA riots following the Rodney King thing would look like sibling rivalry. I don’t think America could handle that right now on top of all the other problems.

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Yup!! Been there, done that. This is exactly how Marcos did it right before he declared Martial Law and installed himself as dictator for life (or so he thought).

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It’s hard to tell if you are being sarcastic based on your comments in other threads.

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Rest assured these shootings will be happening with much more frequency,It happens every election cycle… call me a tin foil hat wearer if you want but I’ve been noticeing this trend for 20 years…

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Dear Suckers,

Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and families touched by yesterday’s gun violence at Northern Illinois University. (Well, not really, but we want to seem like we have heartfelt contrition in order to further our blood agenda.)

At a time when the country confronts one mass shooting after another — six separate multiple murders across the country in just the last two weeks — we need to strengthen America’s gun laws now more than ever. (We need to exploit these tragedies in order to ban more guns from law abiding citizens.)

Over the years, the Brady Campaign has proposed numerous common-sense (unworkable draconian) measures to reduce and prevent (do nothing but feel good) gun violence. It may be difficult to stop ‘suicide shooters’ like the Northern Illinois University killer (without arming the potential victims), but there are steps we can take as a nation to make us all safer (like banning all guns from the law-abiding, our ultimate goal).

Congress’ passing and the President’s signing of the NICS improvement Amendments Act to strengthen the Brady background checks system was a (do nothing) positive first step (that no one enforces when criminals break the law trying to buy guns). Now, we need to close the gun show loophole (by banning gun shows).

As we grieve (salivatate over) with the victims and families of this latest mass shooting (this exploitable tragedy), we also need to take action (while emotions are high and the blood is still warm) — to call on (frighten) public officials, opinion leaders (paid mouthpieces), advocates, and others — indeed, everyone — to do their part to address, and end, the gun violence (gun ownership) in our country.

Much more needs to be done (like banning all guns) to help make our schools and communities safer. We are so grateful that you are with us (have been suckered)in this fight (scheme).

Sincerely,

Paul Helmke, President

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

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Now that’s self centered brilliance at it’s best, but maybe that’s what you were hoping someone would say with your blatantly inflammatory post. A juvenile statement/tactic.

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Wake up! This effects EVERYONE! What a selfish statement…

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It didn’t take long for them to start using this tragedy as their political agenda. What a worthless POS. Furthering their personal gain on the deaths of others. :mad: :mad: Sounds familiar, Hitler?

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No I’m not being sarcastic. I’m in the military, I’m a war veteran, the ban wouldn’t affect me personally. To those who said it’s a selfish statement - that may be very true but I merely stated that it doesn’t affect my gun ownership.