NJ Officer shoots Defendant on camera. Starts out as normal traffic stop for blowing through a stop sign. When the driver is getting out his papers it appears a gun was in the glovebox. The officer struggles numerous times to get the door open and eventually the defendant gets out of the car, at which point the officer shoots him several times. The defendant was told not to move several times.
Take a look, I’d like to hear what everyone thinks about his one.
Another fine, upstanding citizen -
" Reid, 36, spent about 13 years in prison for shooting at
three state troopers when he was a teenager. And Days
knew who he was; Days was among the arresting officers
last year when Reid was charged with several crimes,
including drug possession and obstruction."
Not that i agree with him getting killed.
Paging Al Sharpton, Paging Al Sharpton in 3…2…1…
These things happen.
I don’t think Sharpton will get involved since the black officer did most of the shooting. This does not follow his “Racist White America” narrative.
The officer knew the guy he shot. As the article stated he had multiple arrests and had shot at officers before. He was also recently arrested for drug possession. So general bad guy with a violent history and the officer knew him and his past. He didn’t follow directions, was armed at one point, and got out of the vehicle even though the officer told him he would shoot him if he moved. Even though he had his hands halfway up he pushed the door open forcing his way out of the vehicle. Given all of that I think it would have been very hard not to react like the officer did. The States Attorney’s office has refused to pick up the case. I think that say’s a lot also.
That’s how you see it. That’s how I see it. That’s how J-Dub sees it.
That isn’t how Malik sees it.
where does it say he was armed ? the article indicates the pistol was in the glove box.
While this guy has had a violent past. I wonder to myself if I could get killed for simply getting out of my car with hands in air… Or anyone else… I mean really? Guy gets out (even thouhe was told not to) and they kill him… Just like that…
That is the concern…
I think it was a lot more than a violent past, it very well could have been a violent past with the Cop trying to keep him inside the car.
Here’s the thing, after you take a couple of shots at cops, spend more than a decade in prison and then get out and start the whole thing over again, some of the Cops you come in to contact are going to remember you.
Now if the Black Cop who shot the thug might have had a little personal time in a Cruiser moving him from point A to point B and there might have been some conversation with a bit of colorful language and some promises of retribution, I think he was right to have popped him as he decided to get out of the car against his instructions.
The officers are lucky they didn’t hit each other with the crossfire.
Long story short: Guy with long rap sheet gets shot by cops he’s had run ins with before…
That right there is news GOLD. Sometimes I really wish there was no “news”. Maybe this world would be a better place…
Whoa nelly! Not so fast…
I don’t know, this doesn’t look too good.
So we’ve got a violent turd that has shot at police prior (im going to guess he’s a felon and not supposed to have a firearm). Officer obviously sees a firearm in the glove box, as he reached in and pulled it out (you can see it on the film). Ofc. gives turd several commands of “don’t ****ing move”, however he tells his fellow Ofc. “hey rog we need to pull them out of the car”, while trying to open the door.
Severity of the crime? - Moderate?
What the suspect and immediate threat to the Officers or others? - Maybe?..Possibly?
Was the situation tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving? - Kinda?
Look I understand that every Officer knows, “where theres one, theres two”, and this guy has a history of shooting at Police. I don’t know if this is going to go so great in court, when it gets there. As I noted above, this is walking a real fine line of being a no-go per Graham V. Connor supreme court ruling.
Personally? I vote bad shoot.
I think if the Officer would have stayed CALM, and stopped yelling “DONT ****ING MOVE”, he probably could’ve communicated a little better. Like…“hey, if you reach for that gun, im going to shoot you…everyone put their hands on their head and interlock their fingers and don’t move…(remove gun)” Then systematically remove each person like its a high risk felony stop, search them, and go on about your day. But hindsight is 20/20 I suppose.
That is what I meant by armed at one point. He had access to a weapon right there in front of him in the glove box.
Good shoot. He wasn’t complying for a reason. If a LEO tells you to stop whatever it is you’re doing and you keep doing it you should not be surprised when you get shot. It’s not rocket science.
Yea but should you deserve to die for it?
Right or wrong, if the man holding a gun on you gives you an order, ignore it at your own peril. Better you argue your case in court than your heirs…
I’m sure with a rap sheet like that “deserving to die” was achieved at some earlier point, this was just Karma and a bucket load of stupid meeting at the same point of time and space.
I would say if that Cop had interacted with this guy before he had a real reason to fear him getting out of the car after being ordered not to at gun point.
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Given this information and the fact we cannot see what was going on inside the Jaguar during the stop, we don’t have all the information available to the State’s Attorneys Office. It all boils down to the perception of threat by both officers at the instant the shooting occurred.
Good shoot or not, take notice that the driver was compliant with the other officer’s directions and he did not get shot.