Various RDS from Aimpoint T1, ML2, to cheap stuff from China built in the C-more pattern.
ACOG TA11F.
Various Leupold VXIII’s from 3-9 to 6.5-20X.
I have never even looked through a Nightforce scope.
-I like the FC-2 reticle.
-I don’t like the extra weight over the ACOG. Is it worth it to be able to have a 1.0XX magnification (I hear it’s not EXACTLY 1.0)? Further, when I look through my ACOG with one eye vs. both eyes, the POA shifts by about 6" at 50 yards. Will the nightforce do the same thing, or can I shoot it both eyes open with no POA shift on 1X?
-How does it do on 4X compared to the ACOG in the light-gathering/clarity department? My TA11F could be used at night and it was actually brighter looking through the optic than looking around without it. VERY IMPRESSIVE! Just soaked up the light. During the daytime, it was exceptionally clear.
-How durable are they? I heard one guy complain on here that the magnification “walked” (ring turned) while he was shooting it. This was back in 2006 though. They fix that quirk? The whole occular moves when you select magnification. Weak-point? Non-issue?
-I want an ACOG and an Aimpoint rolled into one that will function with or without a battery. I don’t want the dot to wash-out behind a powerful white light at night. Day-time illumination is much less important than this. Other than a $2600 S&B Short-Dot, is this as close as I can get, or do you guys have one better for me in the <$1500 range?
The Nightforce illumination is not daylight visible so its not going to work like an Aimpoint, and even at that its full reticle illumination not a dot.
There are some cheaper 1-4X’s out there and some with day light visible reticles but in the end I think you would be a lot happier with a used SB Short-Dot or Swarovski Z6i 1-6. You can buy a good condition used one for $1600 if you have patience and broaden your search. I would not buy a $1200 NF that isn’t nearly as well designed or built, doesn’t have as good of glass, and has illumination that isn’t even day light visible.
If you’re looking to spend less than $1k there is a lengthy thread floating around on 1-4X options in that price range.
NSX 1X and 4X images below. Targets around 100y away. I have no idea how you could fault NF construction in any way, even as compared to S&B… I chose my NF over a S&B years ago over size, weight, and the lackluster S&B battery life. It works perfectly now on a 16" 7.62 Noveske.
However, I really like the TR24G now for a general AR optic, especially for the price!
More importantly, I have no idea.why Aimpoint can’t just build a 1-8x scope around a T1.
I’m following your TA44 procurement and am very interested to know about the reticle shift issue. If it has a problem with this, it greatly diminishes my desire to own one, as I would have to use it with only 1 eye open, and then why not just get an RDS?
I own a NightForce NXS 1-4X24 with FC-2 reticle and I’m happy with it. As others have said the illuminated reticle is not visable during the day and guess what? Who gives a shit :rolleyes: This is in my opinion a non issue with this optic. I’m happy with mine and BTW I purchased mine in the equipment exchange mouted on a LaRue mount for 975.00 bucks.
I find that the FC-2 Reticle is way faster than any other I have tried but I imagine the S&B Illuminated dot would be pretty fast but the price difference is not worth it for me.
Is that personal? Have you had another acog, like a ta11 which I know shifts for me? I’m wondering if your experience with the ta44 not shifting is personal, or across the board.