From Vortex this morning on instagram:
Can you spot the difference? Coming 2018.
I’m guessing it’s going to be a 1-8x with some other minor tweaks.
Saw that too. I think the tube looks a bit larger, so maybe a 34mm? My hope is either a lighter 1-6 or a 1-8 that’s the same weight. They also posted a teaser of something that looks like a more direct competitor to the Aimpoint micros.
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1-8 seems to be the trend these days. I may hold off on my Kahles purchase for a while though to see if this is a lighter 1-6 Razor
Lighter would definitely be a bonus. On a recent episode of P&S Steve Fisher hinted a new Night Force 1-? Being announced at SHOT 2018. Next year looks to be a good one for LPV optics.
Probably 34mm tube…in either 1-6 or 1-8…but the weight…I don’t think it’s gonna be lighter…
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34mm 1-8x and heavy is my guess.
Vortex Razors are built like tanks and with that they are heavy.
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For me the 1x6x magnification is the sweet spot for my 16 inch barreled 5.56 rifle and for the distance at which I will be using it most if not all of the time, 0-300 or 400 yds max. It seems that once scopes go to 8x in magnification, tube size goes up, which means it weight goes up, which means its FOV at both ends is usually less , OAL is also usually longer and the scopes eyebox usually becomes smaller and a little slower to use quickly at both the top and bottom end of the scopes magnification.
For a 308 the 1-8 is where it’s at. You don’t need anything more then a 1-6 on a 5.56 carbine just as Biggie said. If I was in the market for another LPV I would probably get the Kahles or another Mk6.
If NF came out with a 1-8 I think a lot of folks would jump to that ship on their SR25s. The CQBSS is fine in the H27D, but expensive. The Minox is also a good option for the 1-8.
I’m interested to see what happens this year at shot. Not holding my breath for a NF anything. It’s been what… 3 years now of them not bringing it out to the table. Unless the Vortex gets a pound lighter, I wouldn’t buy another 1-6 of theirs.
Just some upgrades…same scope otherwise. NF does have a 1-8 coming out and it’s supposed to be FFP at somewhat of a reasonable price point.
That will be nice to see. I’m also wondering if the new Vortex Razor will be FFP.
I don’t know for sure, but does anyone in three gun competion use a FFP scope on their fast and furious rifles ? If not, as they say, that would be considered a clue.
Also, the following information is from a 2017 Remington magazine article I was reading at the bookstore about our armed services deciding to stick with the 7.62x51mm instead of the newer 6mm calibers. The head NC officer in charge of the special forces sniper school had done a survey of 108 school trained snipers who had seen service in Afghanistan and Iraq. The snipers were asked about engagement distances where they were employed as snipers. * The average * engagment distance for the 108 men across both theaters was 396 meters or 433 yards. Its likely the marines were seeing something very similar. I would think at 433yds a FFP scope is not really needed or maybe even wanted and inside of 400yds the same would apply to a 16" barreled AR. After about 500 yds, I would rather just step up to a larger caliber and from there on out a FFP reticle might be preferred.
Could it be because there are only a handful of FFP low power scope that would lend themselves toward 3 gun?
I can only think of two off the top of my head and only one really has the proper reticle for a 16’ barrel and 75/77g bullets.
I have not seen it for myself but the word on the street is the glass sucks but a version 2 is in the works to be released shortly by Eotech. Shot show maybe.
The two most common bullets in 3 gun or go fast type shooting is 55g Hornady followed by 75g Hornady then 77g SMK.
Funny part is most manufactures don’t really seem to ask their customers what recticles they want and just put out some sort of bastardized avg or gear it toward a 55g load with unreachable velocities with a 16’ barrel.
I hope one of the upgrades is less weight. My 1-6 was a pig.
This. Can’t see how making the tube wider will result in less weight 
If that is really a picture of it I don’t think it is a 34mm tube. I’m sure it is just an update to 8x. I mean they are revealing this on the 8th. Coincidence? I think not. Haha. I am interested to see their new red dot too that I have hear rumor of being released the same day.
No FFP.
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They’re releasing all of their new optics including the two new higher powered Strike Eagles on the 8th.
Higher than the 1-8? Wow. That might be a nice toy to have at the range.
More air inside. Duh. 