“Bacon Greased For the Virgins’ Protection.” ![]()
IIRC, max load for the old B-52D “Big Belly” mods was a total of 108 (internal and external) Mk 82’s or M117’s.
I am continually astounded that a plane designed in the 40s as a nuclear delivery platform would use precision-guided munitions for CAS in 2017. At least A-10s, Harriers, you see and hear those. B-52s? Sometimes if we weren’t told they were delivering, all you would see was a sudden explosion…dropped 50,000 feet up.
As a side note, I recall when they were stationed at Seymour-Johnson AFB in NC, my aunt/uncle had a lake-side house at a golf resort about 5 miles from the end of the runway. Those you could hear coming in, seemed like for 10 minutes…they’d fly low and slow on approach and the water on the lake would ripple.
M117’s were enough bigger around you could only carry half as many internal–a shackle-placement limitation, same problem that holds the H’s back from their full potential today. Per Hooppaw (former wing commander whose brain I got to pick at the 50th Birthday party in Wichita), the max possible load was 60K lb. (M117s wing, Mk 82s internal), which was used rarely and only in flights from U Tapao due to the shorter ranges’ reduced fuel loads.
I’ve read that the single greatest fear the NVA had was Arc Light strikes. You couldn’t see them, couldn’t hear them, until suddenly the jungle all around you was erupting.
I’d imagine that a few of those Buffs, wingtip to wingtip and fully loaded, could churn the hell out of LARGE swaths of jungle.
One Arc Light package, two cells of three each, could lay waste to an area the size of DC’s National Mall including all the museums on both sides, per Boyne.
At Khe Sanh the NVA were digging trenches closer and closer to the American lines to use as a jump-off point for any final assault they may have been planning. An Arc Light was executed at what I think is the closest ever allowed to friendly troops (“danger close” if you will). That Arc Light destroyed those trenches that the NVA had been working on so hard, ultimately (it is said) discouraging any further hopes of Giap to produce another Dien Bien Phu. Of course that also led to speculation that a major Khe Sanh attack was a ruse to cover for the rest of the Tet Offensive, but that is a sidetrack to this thread.
Close air support from a Buff…whoda thunk it!
Technically, the BUFFs were closer than ROE allowed, but that was because the ground controllers “massaged the data” reporting their own positions calling 'em in. Charlie knew the “no airstrike closer than X” perimeter, so the GC’s decided that the ends justified the means.
You know how many autistics have one “Rain Man” area of brilliance? B-52 history and tech is kinda my thing. ![]()
Off subject here but I am the OP. ![]()
A plane that’s a blast to see take off is a C-5 Galaxy. I’ve seen them at the old Griffiss ARB and at our local airport. Every once in a while they’ll land here when there’s really bad weather up here in the Northeast. Our airport hardly ever closes due to weather. I think they might also pick us because we have an Air National Guard unit at our airport as well.
They used to fly F-16’s. Now they fly MQ-9 Reaper Drones. If you’ve ever read the book “Level Zero Hero” about Marine Special Operations Team 8222 in Bala Murghab, Afghanistan. They dropped hellfire’s for them when the machine guns on their trucks went down and they needed CAS bad and they were about to be overrun. Pretty cool knowing guys/gals from my AO helped them out. Dagger 22 is the second half of their story.
NYH1.
Here is a coop video on youtube, I didn’t know the B-2 could carry that many bombs, I figured the B-1 and B-52 could drop 30 bombs but those aircraft are built to leave a city in ashes!
It also helps to consider that when the B-52 was designed, nukes were like WWII Tallboys: the size of large cars, “one plane, one bomb, one target.” This “bigger-era” design has also been the key to the BUFF’s longevity in other ways, because as old, bulky vacuum-tube systems have been replaced by lighter, more compact modern electronics it has freed up room inside the skin to add new systems and capabilities that Ed Wells and George Schairer never imagined back when they sketched it out on napkins in the Hotel Cleveland dining room back in '48. Can’t do that with an F-22 or an F-35, because their skins are very tightly fitted around their guts with limited to no expansion room…