Have you tried AMAS? Aviation Medical Advisory Service. They used to be called Virtual Flight Surgeons and are based out of Denver CO.
Curious as to what “Stereotypical Male Interests” actually is as part of a diagnosis.
thepatriot2705 did you make the mistake of using your medical insurance to help pay for the exam?
One thing that Dr. Bruce has made clear in his posts on the AOPA forum about anyone needing a 4-axis NP test is that you have to pay cash for the exam.
If you don’t pay cash and use insurance, the psych/pshrink doing the test HAS to come up with some adverse diagnosis. No adverse diagnosis, no billing code, no insurance payment for the medical professional.
By IACRA he means the electronic FAA medical application process, MedXPress, that electronically transmits the information for the FAA Form 8500-8 Medical Application to the FAA, for your AME to review.
If you have anything questionable that might get you a failed medical, you don’t enter anything into IACRA without getting a consult first, because as I understand it, the FAA in OKC has your info in realtime once you hit submit.
It sounds to me from your post like you applied through IACRA, then got deferred by FAA in OKC for the NP testing, but your post isn’t super clear.
DON’T CLEAR ANY DETAILS UP FOR US. DO NOT PASS GO. DO NOT COLLECT $200.
Stay Anonymous and the Grey Man. Any answers you receive here will not help you, and any details making your identity known to FAA can only possibly come back to bite you in the ass like an angry 90 pound Malinois.
Call Bruce Chien or a different Master AME if you don’t want to use Bruce for some reason.
It amazes me that you have to do this to become a pilot, but not for something like a physician.
Do you have to do this even if you want to get a pilot’s license and fly your own plane for fun?
I don’t think Stereotypical Male Interests is a detrimental result. It means you score “normal” on the guy, male, beer, guns, scale.
Dennis.
Dr Chien used to live and work about 5 miles from me before he moved to Chicagoland. He’s been my AME for over 10 years. He’s former Navy and still flight instructs. Great guy and like others said, he is THE expert on getting special issuances. Folks fly in from across the country to see him.
I didn’t know that about the exams, granted I used cash. But it’s good to know to pay cash from here on out. Thanks.
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Yeah but how is this not a violation of civil rights? Gender is a protected category, is it not? No discrimination based on Age, Sex, Race, Religion, Disability or National Origin. (maybe others that I’m not remembering).
Imagine the shitstorm that would result if someone was rejected for an occupation, even temporarily, because of “stereotypical black interests.”
Can you explain what was in this neuropsychological exam? Or furthermore get a second opinion?
There IS Light Sport, but it’s in-US only and gross weight limit so low as to be practically useless–you’re not even taking the SO on a weekend getaway unless you’re both REAL light packers.
When I was growing up all I wanted to do and be was a military pilot…fighters, prop, helo, cargo, anything. Glasses in junior high nixed that. Your life isn’t over. Disappointing, absolutely. Drive on.
Me too… two years into an academic AFROTC scholarship, pilot slot virtually guaranteed, I was diagnosed with allergies and asthma. Adios dream of being an AF pilot, much less an AF officer. My life turned out fantastic, just a different path.
Same here, I did get to fly as a crewman on anti submarine patrol aircraft. Not the same as sitting in the cockpit but on long patrols with a tight nit crew often a crewman would sit a while and fly the aircraft from the copilot seat.
I flew as a civvy flight medic, and in the Navy went to aircrew school and was an enroute care/flight nurse. I wasn’t “flying”, but I was flying.
Yea bro. Don’t sweat it too much. I always thought I was destined to be a fighter pilot. Hit snag after snag, part of it my fault due to being young and effing around, the other part were age limits once I finally got my s together, none of it due to physical disqualification,
It worked out. It will work out with you too.
I’m not trying to be morbid and I think getting a second opinion and paying cash and talking to that guy is good advice but then again…
If you really want to fly the only person stopping you is you
“If you will it, dude, it is no dream”
— Theodor Herzl
They’re not. They’re only a negative for the stewardesses… 
I would go straight to the military, free and better training. Have you talked to any military recruiting. Generally the military likes to train people its way and any prior civilian experience is not necessarily a plus.
I had a friend whos grandson wanted to become a SEAL and asked me if he should become SCUBA certified before he joined the Navy. I advised not to for the above reason. I advised him to get a weigh belt with 15 pounds on it and start swimming with it for a long and far as he could. He washed out of BUDS but is now an EOD diver.
I did not know until recently, the Navy sends all of their new aviators and NFOs to private, commercial civilian flight school for IFS where they solo and pass the FAA tests, before they start API. I do not know when they started this.
https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/cnatt/nascweb/IFS.aspx
ETA, this is different than what it used to be; they used to discourage people with civilian flight experience because of the time of ‘correcting’ inadequate training.
They might be doing you a favor.
I’ve been an airline pilot for over 20 years now. Getting your pilots license is the easiest thing you’ll ever do. Keeping it, as well as keeping the medical are another story. The license is easy, just don’t screw up. The medical? How are your genetics? It might be out of your control.
You get to go take the medical once a year or every six months if you’re lucky. Sooner or later, everyone is lucky as it’s every six months after you turn 40 if you work for a real airline and have to stay Captain or at least Captain eligible. Once you hit 50, you will start to see your colleagues start to drop like flies on the medical. The closer you get to 60, it gets worse. Lots of guys never make it to retirement because of the medical. You might be a pilot, but for your entire career, it’s only for six months at a time. Medical to medical, check ride to check ride.
Honestly, had I to do all over I would have stayed at my LEO job and retired there. I could do like my friends are now and collect retirement and just be working part time. I could just be flying for fun and not having to deal with the TSA and the FAA.
First it was 9-11, now it’s the Chinavirus. This virus is going to decimate the international travel industry for YEARS to come. There will NOT be a pilot shortage now. IMHO, if you want to fly… Go get a rec license and do it for fun. I don’t think it’s going to be that great of a gig for a FNG for several years now. The industry will recover, but it will be years before it is what it was in 2019.
Speaking of medicals… Why aren’t Doctors drug tested and/or have to get checked out every year to see if they are still competent? There hasn’t been a fatal “airliner” crash in the USA in years, yet every year over 100,000 die of medical mistakes… Just saying…
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