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personally, as mentioned, I don’t care if not everyone can shoot every single drill.

10-4… I did the math and it really doesn’t size up well anyway. I think I’ll just use your idea for a personalize target. I like the idea you came up with.

I’ve got an idea for a 7 yard pistol deal anyway. Will post if I can get it drawn up.

Ok, this will allow it to be fired indoors, variation of the 1-5 drill, but will use only two targets. You may only have one lane to use and not be able to use 5 bays on a range.

Affix two B8 targets vertically so they do not overlap. I would suggest using the B8 repair centers (B-8C(P) or fold the full sheet if you have those, copies can be used as well. You buy these at pistoleer in 12-100 packs.

Carbine at the ready, which will be stated at a 45 degree angle, muzzle toward the ground in front. Safety applied and stock mounted, finger straight and indexed on lower. Pistol is the same, held two hand supported, safety on if applicable.

Carbine at 10 yards, pistol at 5

On signal, engage in order bottom target with one round, top target with two rounds, bottom target with three rounds, top target with four rounds and bottom target with five rounds. If you have a single stack-deal with it:eek:—I’ll throw you guys a bone and this is the variation for the pistol. Same engagement order with the exception of load your mags/pistol so you end up with a slide lock after the four rounds in the top target, reload and finish with the five rounds in the bottom target.

Scoring, time plus. .50 added for each shot in 9 ring, 1 second for each shot in 8 ring, 7 or worse is 5 seconds for each shot. Ties broken with x count(those odds are so slim that you should play the lotto instead)
State time and raw score, break down x, 10, 9, 8 and worse, we can add the penalties(time plus)

We’ll do iron sights or red dot in the same category, carbine or pistol.

So how’s that for a start?

Oh, minimum .380 for the pistol and 5.45 with the carbine. I don’t care if you have a can, brake, baby IPSC loads with ported barrels with bored rifling, etc, you live with yourself.

This is the Feb 2012 match, Rob will do the March match, Rob whatever you want to make up, we will do. Would you roger up for the score collecting?

I think we should move this over to the competition section.

The match is stuck and locked at the top, I’ll unlock it for scores only Feb 1

Would a chart suffice? :thank_you2:

certainly! however you want to lay it out or if you wanted to collect more info on the guns, etc so an iron shooter can see how he/she does against a dot, etc.

Thanks!

Very cool.

sounds like a great idea.

This looks great… I would have to get permission from the president of my gun club since they freak out with rate of fire violations. Some old timers ( Bench rest shooters and clay shooters ) complain all the time when I do drills on the range.

     :rolleyes:

I am hopeful that we can also have months when the drills are slow-fire and precision-oriented. Perhaps even bench-rest related for those so inclined.

I already have an idea for that in April, which well hopefully have enough interest to get to, but I’ll happily step aside if anyone else has an idea for that month/genre.

This all sounds great! All-remember, the feb 2012 match is posted so you can see what it entails, etc.

oh, the B-8C(P) "B-8 repair center, paper and other targets for future use

http://www.pistoleer.com/targets/handgun/
http://www.pistoleer.com/targets/highpower/

I am in, I am also seeing about starting up a similar offering at work…

Here is my suggestion for a basic 100yd marksmanship drill:

*Standard NRA B-8 target repair center set-up @ 100yds

*60 second time limit

*Drill is shot for score. You earn x number of points for the number of the scoring ring(s) you hit with each of your rounds fired within the time limit. For example: 10 ring hits are worth 10 points each, 9 ring hits are worth 9 points each, 8 ring hits are worth 8 points each, etc. *Exception: “X” ring hits are worth 20 points each.

*10 rounds total fired/10 points max per round except for “X” ring hits which will count as 20 points each. Maximum score of 200 points

*Any misses off of the repair center target are counted as misses/0 points per miss. Do not assume that a miss just outside of the repair center would count as a 7 ring “hit”. A miss is a miss.

Shooters will start out with a loaded rifle on “SAFE” in the standing low-ready position. NO bipods of any type will be allowed during this stage. This includes “Grip-Pod” style vertical grips Shooters may rest their magazine on the ground for support. On the beep, shooters will assume a PRONE position, place their rifles on “FIRE”, and fire all 10 rounds at their target. A “Cease Fire” will be called at the 60 second mark.

*Any rounds fired after the cease-fire is called will be subtracted from your best hits on-target x how many rounds fired over-time. Example: If you fire 2 rounds over-time and you have 2 (or more) “X” ring hits on your target, you will have -40 points subtracted from your overall score.

the shorter range drills rob proposes will make it easy for everyone with any kind of range to partake.

I drive past a range daily (pembroke, I know, I know) and this would be a pleasure.

Kindly let me (and other new guys) know how we time it, do you recommend a timer? can one person operate it?

thanks.

You’ll need a shot timer, or a shot timer app for your iPhone/Droid/whatever. They will all have the ability to have a delayed start so that one person can operate it.

the shorter range drills rob proposes will make it easy for everyone with any kind of range to partake.

Not really. I can’t participate in Feb. or March and I am a member of a 7 - 100 yard range.

I -could- go to an indoor range and spend upwards of $100 to give it a go for the pistol comp.

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iPhone Timer ( has popular pistol drills configured )

http://dryfiretrainer.blogspot.com/

I’m not looking to be a range snob here, but we are doing rifle drills. Hopefully we do many of the drills at “rifle” distances.

We will Dirk, I just came up with something quick for the first one to get it running. rob s is doing the next one and more if he wishes, so I’m certain he will challenge you guys.

I think this will be a good thing, another tool to validate training. You know, it can also be multi part, whatever you guys want. I’ll be here to help out.

This will also be an opportunity for you all to meet other shooters, share ideas, equipment and do some training. Please remember, just have fun and challenge yourself, don’t be concerned about being “shown-up” Look at as a challenge to get better.

I will try to shoot this with my “weak” hand as my right is in a sling right now.

Mark

Guns are icky. I can’t shoot anyway, so I’m out. :jester:

There’s a lot of us that do not have a 100 yard range readily accessible.

I’ll be running these tonight at the NRA range in Fairfax.

Guys, how about if we wait for this to get off the ground a little bit before we get all down on the whopping TWO months worth that have been posted so far.

Keep the suggestions positive. And let’s not let this turn into a “I can’t do that” and “I can’t do this”, but instead let’s propose what we CAN do or WANT to do.

He called me “Dirk”!:smiley: