Maybe he’ll keep doing it and just get it over with. We’ve got enough stupid people to go around, we can afford to loose a few more.
He needs to worry less about the sight alignment and worry more about that lame-ass teacup grip.
That would make a fine sig tag!
Not only is the firearm pointed this face, but the student in the background appears ready to fire downrange … While this dufus is standing five feet downrange of the firing line.
True, but he got his TDOS creds reinstated.
If I knew how I would make one of those demotivational posters using this picture.
Well, yes, kind of. I think it usually comes out as “GET ON THE GROUND MOTHER FUCKER!” or something along those lines.
But holy hell, who the hell taught him to teach that?
That’s really gonna hurt for a very brief amount of time one day.
I see that someone found and posted the larger version of the photo, so I have incorporated that into the original post of this thread. I should also point out that we on TGO (TNGunOwners) have been accused by this jackwagon of being fools who know not of what we speak, because we think it’s pretty awesome that he blew his finger off press-checking someone’s gun.
Of course it’s only awesome because he didn’t shoot a student in the process, just himself.
No that I’m defending this dope but looking down the barrel is often done when a person is being fitted to a shotgun.


He’s not long for this world.
HOLY DUMB-ASS BATMAN!
I don’t think I could have kept my mouth shut. I’d have to call him out on his blatant stupidity. As amusing as it is when some jack-ass takes himself out, what about the damage it causes to the student when (and if) it finally happens? Also, what about all the students whose minds he has polluted? What happens when one of them takes out someone? Who the &#@% own this facility in the photo and why do they allow him to train on their property this way?
You can’t fix stupid but, you can fix ignorant.
In my NRA instructor’s class, just for fun the instructor said we could try out some 1-handed retention fire. I’ve done this plenty of times before, but other than my friend and I, no one else in the class had…some of which were already instructors. One of the students was very uncomfortable with the drill, so the instructor had her hand him the gun, he took the mag out and cleared it, then handed it to her, then told her to “dry fire” at him in the same retention position. This was 90 degrees from down range, pointed down the firing line, luckily with no one else on the range. The funny thing? The moron had a red gun on his belt. He could have eliminated a hell of a lot of risk by just using it. This did absolutely nothing to improve my overall dismal view of “NRA Instruction” to begin with. The best part was when I mentioned some of the well known instructors out there like Vickers, Hackathorn, etc of which he had no clue, and he responded that we should come to his tactical pistol class because he’s had students tell him he’s better than all those type of guys. :rolleyes: I refuse to ever teach an NRA-approved class.
BT is well known in this part of the country. There is no question he has decades of experience and if you look at his website he has a very long list of credentials. Taking that into account it is even harder to understand how he would put himself in the position seen in the picture above. By his own account of the event that happened at Gun City on 5/14/2011 he is quick to point out that a student broke the rules regarding bringing a loaded weapon into the classroom, but he must have been breaking the most basic of firearms safety rules in order to discharge the pistol into his finger.
First of all it doesn’t matter what a student or anyone else says the pistol is always loaded until you verify it safe for yourself. Secondly if the weapon truly isn’t pointed at anyone (including you and your fingers) then if it does discharge unexpectedly no one should be injured or killed. Third, I don’t think his account of his weapon manipulation is accurate but that is common in most ND events that I have reviewed. It seems the more experience and authority the person has, the less likely they are to actually admit their mistakes in an honest and forthright manner so that others may learn exactly what happened and how to prevent it from happening to others. I don’t think what he has described is even possible but since I’m not an expert on the Walther P99 I will leave it to others to verify if his description could be accurate.
This event just reinforces the fact that no matter how much experience you have there are some rules you cannot violate, as a matter of safety and habit.
Good lord…
We need to police our own on this.
That is true, however there is absolutely no comparison between the two activities and how they are performed.
Easier said than done in this case. Decades of connection with the powers that be have firmly enveloped this guy in the “good ole boy network” and he continues to enjoy that protection. As D. Christopher pointed out [above], BT has a well-established history in this area and continues to foist his anachronistic views on firearms and firearms-use onto anyone hapless enough to sign up for one of his classes.
I’m immature enough to get a giggle out of somebody’s name and yet remain aware that it has no viable bearing on them as a person…but still think it’s amazing that so many folks named along the Cletus/Roscoe/Two-Hypnenated-First-Names subcategory seem to make a dedicated, intentional effort to live up to the associated stereotypes.
It’s actually somewhat comforting to know that the suburban Biffs/Muffys of the world are conforming to their archetype as the Ricky-Bobbys are, otherwise I’d just think that the 'necks were just screwing with our heads.